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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #250 on: August 19, 2021, 08:42:21 PM »
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Is defenestration possible through the overton window?

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« Reply #251 on: August 19, 2021, 08:55:37 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #252 on: August 19, 2021, 09:06:02 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on August 19, 2021, 03:46:26 PM
What I'm hearing from the guys in theatre

Thanks for that writeup.

Curious on the "export" stuff: Are there set levels of demilling for sharing with allies, or is it case by case? For instance, if we gave something to the krauts, would it have more nifty gadgets left in place than the same thing given to the ANA?
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #253 on: August 19, 2021, 10:30:42 PM »

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #254 on: August 19, 2021, 10:32:06 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #255 on: August 19, 2021, 10:45:56 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #256 on: August 19, 2021, 10:50:11 PM »
Ouch!
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #257 on: August 19, 2021, 10:51:09 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #258 on: August 19, 2021, 11:40:11 PM »
The spin has gone to plaid

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    Many explanations floated for why Biden admin didn’t get Afghan allies out earlier. Disorganization? People not wanting to leave? Preventing loss of faith in Afghan govt?
    Or a more stomach-turning possibility: Biden was afraid of what Fox News might say https://t.co/ubJHkMeEtG

    — Catherine Rampell (@crampell) August 19, 2021
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    Did this save him from nasty right-wing attacks? No. B/c no matter what Biden does, bad-faith demagogues will accuse him of "open borders.” Might as well pursue policies he thinks are right & not cave to fears of how Fox News might frame them. https://t.co/P9Xtzsmc7y

    — Catherine Rampell (@crampell) August 19, 2021
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/19/stomach-turning-possibility-biden-didnt-get-afghan-allies-out-of-the-country-earlier-because-he-was-afraid-of-what-fox-news-might-say/

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #259 on: August 20, 2021, 08:28:49 AM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #260 on: August 20, 2021, 10:08:35 AM »
Quote from: Ben on August 20, 2021, 08:28:49 AM
Man, these people are enormous bunglers on the PR:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/08/19/state-dept-spox-americans-evacuating-afghanistan-wont-have-to-reimburse-u-s-govt-due-to-these-unique-circumstances/

The people in Afghanistan who are there as employees of the US, should be evacuated (if they want) free of charge.  That is part of the employer's responsibility.

Those US citizens there on their own agenda should find their own way out.  They have had plenty of warning to evacuate.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #261 on: August 20, 2021, 10:15:06 AM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #262 on: August 20, 2021, 10:16:44 AM »
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Taliban showing off their new swag:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/ARF-warriors-aren-t-as-Gucci-as-Taliban/5-2479919/

Well, at least there are no filmless WP NODs hanging off the helmet mount.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #263 on: August 20, 2021, 10:35:02 AM »
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They fit in better to their surroundings vs when they had ANA uniforms on.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #264 on: August 20, 2021, 10:39:38 AM »
Wonder what their supply of batteries is like
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #265 on: August 20, 2021, 10:59:02 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on August 20, 2021, 10:39:38 AM
Wonder what their supply of batteries is like

The Chinese will be happy to send them a lifetime supply in exchange for some U.S. tech.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #266 on: August 20, 2021, 11:32:09 AM »
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Taliban showing off their new swag:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/ARF-warriors-aren-t-as-Gucci-as-Taliban/5-2479919/

I am entertained by the guys carring AK rifles and STANAG mags.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #267 on: August 20, 2021, 11:55:28 AM »
Americans stranded in Afghanistan rescued . . . by the British:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/brits-rescuing-americans-afghanistan-matt-pottinger

First: big "thank you" to the British military.

Second: to the American leadership - WTF is wrong with you??
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #268 on: August 20, 2021, 12:02:34 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on August 20, 2021, 11:32:09 AM
I am entertained by the guys carring AK rifles and STANAG mags.

One appears to have an AK-47, STANAG mags, and a mix various 7.62x54r rounds.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #269 on: August 20, 2021, 12:04:45 PM »
You can actually see mil transport and tankers in the air over Afghanistan on FlightRadar24. A C17 just took off in Kabul.
Also I find interesting, and understandable, that it appears civilian AC detour around the border
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #270 on: August 20, 2021, 02:11:12 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on August 20, 2021, 12:04:45 PM
You can actually see mil transport and tankers in the air over Afghanistan on FlightRadar24. A C17 just took off in Kabul.
Also I find interesting, and understandable, that it appears civilian AC detour around the border

There are quite a few things in the air that turn off their ID or request not to be shown up on tracking apps. I just watched two Turkish Air Force C130s take off from Kabul and then disappear from the app then reappear a little later heading southwest. Usually the majority of military aircraft on the tracking apps are transport types or stuff over airspace where they don't face any dangers from what I understand.

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eta: Watching flightradar24 while this is going on is kind of interesting. Just today I have seen C17s from several countries, C130s from Turkey that went to Pakistan and just recently an Air Force   E11A  (Communications Platform) roll in at 40K and start orbiting just north of Kabul.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #271 on: August 20, 2021, 02:41:14 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #272 on: August 20, 2021, 02:52:21 PM »
Quote from: BobR on August 20, 2021, 02:11:12 PM

eta: Watching flightradar24 while this is going on is kind of interesting. Just today I have seen C17s from several countries, C130s from Turkey that went to Pakistan and just recently an Air Force   E11A  (Communications Platform) roll in at 40K and start orbiting just north of Kabul.

Yeah, it's circling with Bagram dead center of the circle
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #273 on: August 20, 2021, 03:26:16 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #274 on: August 20, 2021, 03:38:19 PM »
RAF C-130 just left
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