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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #275 on: August 20, 2021, 04:36:49 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #279 on: August 20, 2021, 08:09:56 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #280 on: August 20, 2021, 11:44:48 PM »
What people don't get is that the Taliban didn't come back, they were always there. 20 years of cluelessness
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #281 on: August 21, 2021, 12:21:13 AM »
What people don't get is that the Taliban didn't come back, they were always there. 20 years of cluelessness

The Taliban leadership just sat over the border in Pakistan and waited while sending their foot soldiers over to kill us occasionally.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #282 on: August 21, 2021, 09:58:55 AM »
Notice RAF, Polish, Turkish C-130s and A400s and an non-IDed 737 going in and out of A this morning.

As a side note noticed an Iranian aircraft with a call sign of FLTCK01 belonging to Iran Civil Aviation Training & Service Center buzzing around just over the Iranian border. Did a double take at the call sign. I can't help it if the LT forms a U in my mind at first glance.  :rofl: That just made my morning.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #283 on: August 21, 2021, 10:10:40 AM »
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speaker nancy pelosi : “everything sounds like it’s in a good place, everyone just needs to get to the airport.”


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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #284 on: August 21, 2021, 10:14:08 AM »
And a US C-17 just took off from Kabul. They climb fast and hard after takeoff I'm assuming to avoid small arms fire.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #285 on: August 21, 2021, 12:18:38 PM »
Biden is off the hook. It was climate change.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/08/20/this-is-a-real-headline-cbs-news-gives-biden-an-assist-by-explaining-how-climate-change-strengthened-the-taliban/

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If you read our story yesterday about CBS News reporting that the Taliban have been strengthened in Afghanistan because of climate change, you might have asked yourself, “is this from the Babylon Bee?”

With that in mind, Babylon Bee CEO Seth Dillon went ahead and made it official:

    Did I forget to mention we bought CBS? https://t.co/9UQZJbhvqh

    — Seth Dillon (@SethDillon) August 21, 2021
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/08/21/babylon-bee-ceo-has-a-big-scoop-after-cbs-news-reports-what-has-strengthened-the-taliban/

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #286 on: August 21, 2021, 12:23:08 PM »
Couldn't help but notice the similarities in the shape of Afghanistan and West Virginia 
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #287 on: August 21, 2021, 01:24:12 PM »
Couldn't help but notice the similarities in the shape of Afghanistan and West Virginia

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #288 on: August 21, 2021, 02:26:21 PM »
C-130 going in with the call sign ARSON54.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #289 on: August 21, 2021, 06:46:45 PM »
Fact check: Joe Biden has never worn a hat that says "Make Taliban Great Again."
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #290 on: August 21, 2021, 06:57:44 PM »
Fact check: Joe Biden has never worn a hat that says "Make Taliban Great Again."
… as far as he can remember.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #291 on: August 21, 2021, 07:44:31 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #292 on: August 21, 2021, 07:53:57 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #293 on: August 21, 2021, 09:04:14 PM »
The Taliban dressed up in American military gear we left behind when we fled the country and staged their own mock Iwo Jima photo.
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1429174503930613764/photo/1
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #294 on: August 21, 2021, 09:13:13 PM »
The Taliban dressed up in American military gear we left behind when we fled the country and staged their own mock Iwo Jima photo.
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1429174503930613764/photo/1

An important point to remember, which many people want to gloss over.

We did not leave gear behind that belonged to the US military, especially NVGs. 99.99% (probably 100%) of the US gear that the Taliban are being shown with was owned by the ANA. We sold gave that gear to the Afghans.

There are a few things you do not want to lose control of if you are in the US military and that's your weapons and your NVGs.

I wonder if this started as a right wing talking point?

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #295 on: August 21, 2021, 09:33:34 PM »
They've sure got some chutzpah.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #296 on: August 22, 2021, 08:34:59 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/world/american-mom-trapped-afghanistan-taliban-biden

https://twitter.com/i/status/1429140083291140105

From the armchair, never having been in a battle: I suppose the better thing would have been to have kept enough troops there to hold the airport and a corridor into Kabul. Were this another reality where the current stuff was going on, what would prevent an alternate America from sending in 5000 Sardaukar with instructions to kill everyone waving a gun between the airport and Kabul proper, and hold that until everyone we want evacuated is evacuated? Seems like that would be an efficient way to hold off the Taliban and every other monkey with a gun who is playing Taliban.

I understand this morning that while currently the US military is not allowed to leave the airport to assist other than I guess a few isolated incidents, there is a chance that the politicians are looking at the bad press and because of that (vs a logically contemplated decision) considering sending troops beyond the airport to clear the way for evacuees. I fear that their ROEs and likely smaller numbers will dangerously hamper them if that happens.

Again, from the armchair, but if you want to get people out with the minimal loss of life at this time, it seems going full Von Clausewitz would be the way to do it.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #297 on: August 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM »
^^^I think it is unfortunate that the ready brigade of the 82nd Airborne has not been airlifted into the airport to serve as needed.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #298 on: August 22, 2021, 09:24:13 AM »
^^^I think it is unfortunate that the ready brigade of the 82nd Airborne has not been airlifted into the airport to serve as needed.

It's only from the morning shows this morning, so who knows about the accuracy, but one story mentioned that military at the airport are frustrated and chomping at the bit to go out, show force, and bring people in. The other story said that there are a number of former military, through private networks, already there and getting people they know (interpreters, etc.) out one by one.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #299 on: August 22, 2021, 11:48:06 AM »
. . . Bottom line, it’s a shithole and you’d never be successful in teaching them to do anything different they have been doing for hundreds of years . . .
I disagree.

They're still trying to work their way up to shithole status.
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