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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #351 on: August 24, 2021, 05:57:23 PM »
More I go on the 31 Aug pull out. https://funker530.com/video/allies-ask-biden-for-extended-evac-timeline-taliban-threaten-consequences/?fbclid=IwAR2oKH_sANaXdYNjD63E7yCrcsy7VCBgzhvRSDiVcu2OgyU5gL10pYfup90


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Unconfirmed reports suggest the Biden administration is asking the Taliban to allow for a short extension of the withdrawal, to September 11, 2021,

Jesus Christ, can this idiot insult our country any more?
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #352 on: August 24, 2021, 08:50:47 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #353 on: August 24, 2021, 08:53:30 PM »
Earlier they had it at 37,000 but less then 5000 were Americans.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #354 on: August 25, 2021, 09:35:14 AM »

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #355 on: August 25, 2021, 09:50:05 AM »
Some thoughts from a guy that has BTDT:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/the-day-afghanistan-died/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=article
Interesting that they had an elite force that was fighting well.  I have heard nothing about that before.  I still don't like the implication that our pulling out is to blame.  It wasn't a secret that we were pulling out unless someone made promises they shouldn't have.  Then the article goes on to imply why it would be good to should station troops there permanently like we have in Korea. 
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #356 on: August 25, 2021, 10:00:42 AM »
If the Afghanis couldn't develop a cohesive, functional military after 20 years of our support, training and untold billions of dollars they never would.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #357 on: August 25, 2021, 10:06:07 AM »
If the Afghanis couldn't develop a cohesive, functional military after 20 years of our support, training and untold billions of dollars they never would.

They are fully capable of doing that and have, they are run by the Taliban not the Fabulous USA State Dept.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #358 on: August 25, 2021, 10:12:41 AM »
Some thoughts from a guy that has BTDT:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/the-day-afghanistan-died/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=article

Good (informative good, not good good) read, thanks for posting.

I knew nothing of 16JUN. That is both sad and infuriating.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #359 on: August 25, 2021, 10:19:08 AM »
I guess now we know why 46 is capitulating to the Taliban - they are moving to the forefront on fighting "climate change". They really are a good bunch of guys. Go green!

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/08/25/good-news-taliban-spox-says-the-terrorists-are-committed-to-tackling-climate-change/
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #360 on: August 25, 2021, 10:35:48 AM »
I guess now we know why 46 is capitulating to the Taliban - they are moving to the forefront on fighting "climate change". They really are a good bunch of guys. Go green!

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/08/25/good-news-taliban-spox-says-the-terrorists-are-committed-to-tackling-climate-change/

They're going to lower their carbon emissions by not burning the headless bodies but rather leave them in the street to rot. Should make PETA happy since vultures need to eat too.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #361 on: August 25, 2021, 10:49:00 AM »
If the Afghanis couldn't develop a cohesive, functional military after 20 years of our support, training and untold billions of dollars they never would.

Honest question:

Who do you think was holding the Taliban at bay for the last four or five years?

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #362 on: August 25, 2021, 10:56:21 AM »
Honest question:

Who do you think was holding the Taliban at bay for the last four or five years?

They were, but with our support and backing. Once we stopped supporting the ANA they folded like a house of cards.
No, I don't think I understand all the nuances of "why". But the what I consider reliable 2nd hand information I have gotten from friends and associates that have been there leads me to believe that it is in large part due to a deeply ingrained cultural conditioning.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #363 on: August 25, 2021, 11:46:12 AM »
I guess now we know why 46 is capitulating to the Taliban - they are moving to the forefront on fighting "climate change". They really are a good bunch of guys. Go green!

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/08/25/good-news-taliban-spox-says-the-terrorists-are-committed-to-tackling-climate-change/

It's really a very good propaganda campaign. Before you know it, the talibanese will be on the UN human rights commission . . . .
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #364 on: August 25, 2021, 12:59:50 PM »
A few years ago I would have laughed at you. Now I can just lower my head and say you're right.
Sometimes we carry more weight then we owe.
And sometimes goes on and on and on.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #365 on: August 25, 2021, 08:34:16 PM »


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    #Afghanistan: Due to threats outside the Kabul airport, US citizens should avoid traveling to the airport and avoid airport gates unless you receive instructions to do so. Those at the Abbey Gate, East Gate, or North Gate now should leave immediately. https://t.co/InzuVjXhLT pic.twitter.com/6ncsJBEVLu

    — Travel – State Dept (@TravelGov) August 25, 2021
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/25/state-department-now-telling-us-citizens-to-avoid-traveling-to-the-airport-and-if-at-the-gates-leave-immediately/
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #366 on: August 25, 2021, 09:00:47 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #367 on: August 25, 2021, 09:04:16 PM »
I’m taking all bets on the US suddenly pulling out a few days earlier and leaving plenty of American citizens stranded.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #368 on: August 25, 2021, 09:57:47 PM »
They are fully capable of doing that and have, they are run by the Taliban not the Fabulous USA State Dept.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #369 on: August 26, 2021, 09:37:05 AM »
Looks pretty empty in Talibanstan AC wise this morning.
Esit: Never mind, two C-17s, USAF and a RAF one, just popped up. But that's it, much lower traffic than before.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #370 on: August 26, 2021, 09:43:48 AM »
Looks like if you're still there you're more than likely screwed.

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Several European countries said they were halting evacuation flights from Afghanistan, leaving behind citizens and thousands of Afghans who had been cleared for entry, because the U.S. needs time to wind down operations ahead of the Aug. 31 withdrawal deadline.

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“Everything is over,” said a 30-year-old teacher who tried to get to the airport. “They’re not letting anyone pass, not even those with foreign passports or visas.”

Thousands of Western citizens and permanent residents are still stranded in Afghanistan, and many fear that they will now be abandoned to face possible Taliban retribution. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Wednesday that approximately 1,500 American citizens were still in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, and that Washington was in touch with some 500 of them, trying to organize evacuations.

U.S. Allies Halt Kabul Evacuations, Warn of Growing Terrorism Threat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/u-s-allies-halt-kabul-evacuations-warn-of-growing-terrorism-threat/ar-AANLzDs?ocid=msedgntp
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #371 on: August 26, 2021, 10:10:00 AM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #372 on: August 26, 2021, 10:13:36 AM »
At the same link

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A former translator for a high-ranking U.S. Army Ranger in Afghanistan told Fox News Wednesday the Taliban have begun publicly executing allies of the U.S. in provinces away from the media attention of Kabul.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #373 on: August 26, 2021, 10:15:17 AM »
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The explosion has occurred at the Abbey gate entrance where British troops have been stationed in recent days. It was one of three gates that had been closed followings warnings of a terrorist threat.

A US official has told Reuters news agency the explosion was caused by a suicide bomber.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-58279900

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #374 on: August 26, 2021, 10:15:54 AM »