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Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 12, 2006, 03:51:44 PM
Ok..I have a little time, so if anyone new wants me to do a quick family thing for them, let me know. No charge..just get me back to 1930 or so and I can usually come up with something. If I do a really good job and you feel very appreciative, donate some money to the NRA for it. If not, well, you get waht you pay for. Smiley
Title: Family History
Post by: Preacherman on August 12, 2006, 04:33:34 PM
How about family history in other countries, Barbara?  I'd like to find out a bit more about my lot, but they're all in England.
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 12, 2006, 04:36:09 PM
England is pretty easy. They kept good records. They have census records back to 1840 anyway, and parish records before that. And there's the advantage of it all being in English which makes it easier.

Send me stuff..I'll come up with something. Usually anyway.

Unless your grandparents were John and Mary Smith, in which case, I'm not going to have much luck.
Title: Family History
Post by: spinr on August 12, 2006, 05:01:03 PM
I think I might be interested.  What info do you need?

Thanks,
Steve
Title: Family History
Post by: lupinus on August 12, 2006, 05:04:15 PM
Mine came from Albania, spent a few in Sicily, and then came into Jersey

I'm not sure how well Albania kept records but I am willing to assume that the answer would be not very well lol.
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 12, 2006, 05:17:11 PM
Hm..I've never looked for Albanian records, but don't be so sure. My family was Maltese and I've had decent luck. I'd have to actually go visit to get anything further, I think..the language is pretty much Arabic written in Latin so its not like I can easily get it translated. Thankfully, in later years English became more prevalent.

Spin, for most people, any information from 1930 or so back is helpful. For most of that, its parents or grandparents. What area of the country they were from, names of siblings, estimated birth dates, etc. are all good. Information after 1930 isn't usually as helpful, plus it gets into privacy issues that I don't want to deal with.

You can email me through here and I'll poke around and see what I can find.

I'm warning you, a couple people here have become addicted to this.. Smiley
Title: Family History
Post by: lupinus on August 12, 2006, 05:24:51 PM
I can get you back to ww1 Wink

since thats when they crossed the pond and all

which also makes me remember, there is english in there too lol  keep forgetting we arent all albanians back there in the ol family tree lol
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 12, 2006, 05:28:55 PM
Well, there you go. Shoot me an email. Its either that or I have to do the stuff I'm supposed to be doing and I'd rather do genealogy. Smiley
Title: Family History
Post by: lupinus on August 12, 2006, 05:43:36 PM
you should have mail
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 12, 2006, 06:46:34 PM
You should have family. Smiley

Some anyway.
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 12, 2006, 07:37:36 PM
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Some anyway
I still think a Stork landed in the wrong state in my case.

I was at mom's while she was gone and the Caller ID was one of two calls she was expecting. Great. This 'relative' has been communicating with mom and her sister.
I a more confused than ever!
North Carolina, being where "we" settled on mom's side, and "we" were fierce fighters and did not "fight by the rules".

Umm...I'm gonna stick with  the "stork avoiding bad weather and making an emergency landing" story a bit longer...
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 15, 2006, 05:17:49 PM
Ok, think I'm caught up on everyone who asked and found at least a little something for everyone. Let me know if I missed anyone.
Title: Family History
Post by: Gewehr98 on August 15, 2006, 08:51:49 PM
One more request sent. Wink
Title: Family History
Post by: Stickjockey on August 16, 2006, 07:59:44 AM
I'm still checking on the info you sent me last time. My home comp. hosed itself and we just recently got back on the net.

Remember Killian Creek?
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 16, 2006, 10:25:31 AM
Gewehr, I'm playing with it now. Should have something for you in a while.

I definitely remember Killian Creek. Still the coolest name I've ever heard the whole time I've been doing that.
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 18, 2006, 05:06:05 PM
Ok, sorry for the delay but I just sent you a file.

Anyone I've forgotten or who has more questions?
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 18, 2006, 06:24:52 PM
Barbara, RE Maltese - I am currently studying Arabic and have access to more Arabic instructors than you can shake a camel's tail at (and almost any other language you can think of, too.) I'm not sure how complex the stuff you are looking at is. I am not real familiar with geneology. If you think I could help any, feel free to send me an e-mail.
Title: Family History
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on August 18, 2006, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: Barbara
England is pretty easy. They kept good records. They have census records back to 1840 anyway, and parish records before that. And there's the advantage of it all being in English which makes it easier.

Send me stuff..I'll come up with something. Usually anyway.

Unless your grandparents were John and Mary Smith, in which case, I'm not going to have much luck.
I'm a Smith. Smiley
Title: Family History
Post by: BobR on August 19, 2006, 08:05:57 AM
I don't even know where to start. All I know is a tiny bit about grandparents, very little about parents. I guess I will just stay one of the blissfully ignorant when it comes to origins.

bob
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 19, 2006, 04:22:23 PM
Thanks, Jason..fortunately, English is now one of the two official documents so any forms I've ever sent away for have been in English as well. Eventually, I'll do some research into parish records and may well take you up on that then.

Bob, don't be so sure. I'm pretty good and *may* be able dig up something. Grandparents are usually easier for me to find info on than parents, due to privacy laws. I can find a lot more info on someone from 1930 than I can from 1960.

I'd encourge those I've send info to do more research..look up some of the people online..there are so many county histories, etc. online, you may well find something. And always, if there's one particular person you want to konw more about, let me know and I can do some digging.
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 20, 2006, 06:08:03 AM
Ok, anyone unhappy? Smiley
Title: Family History
Post by: Chuck Dye on August 20, 2006, 06:30:03 AM
Barbara,

First, thank you very much for the work you have done.  Your nudge has re-energized the work I had been doing.

A search for genealogy freeware and shareware produces several hits.  At this point, I just want to build a standard tree, with the usual boxes, circles, and arrows (where is Arlo when you need him?)  Do you have any recommendations that might help separate wheat from chaff?

Thanks,
Huck
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 20, 2006, 09:43:48 AM
I'm not sure, honestly..a couple other people have asked me but I've always used Family Tree Maker, so I hate to give advice on a program I've never used.

If you find one, let me know and I'll send you the gedcom file for your data.
Title: Family History
Post by: Chuck Dye on August 20, 2006, 10:27:27 AM
I have downloaded the freeware version of Legacy 5.0 from

http://www.download-by.net/home-and-hobby/genealogy/14077,legacy-family-tree,dl.html

am typing away, filling in info fields.  


HEY!  This is work!  Thanks again for jump starting a stalled project.

Huck
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 22, 2006, 05:33:18 PM
Very cool..let us know how you like it since others have asked also. I just realized yours is the only one I didn't record into a gedcom. If anyone else would like the files, let me know. I made .pdf trees for everyone and sent along some census records , etc. for most folks, I think.

If anyone else wants me to look up something, let me know. I can usually dig up something..although it may not be what you want. I can't be held responsible for horsethieves, socialists, loyalists or damned yankees. Smiley
Title: Family History
Post by: BobR on August 22, 2006, 08:11:57 PM
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I can't be held responsible for horsethieves, socialists, loyalists or damned yankees.
Damn, from what you sent me, that just about covers all the bases. Cheesy

thanks again

bob
Title: Family History
Post by: Chuck Dye on August 26, 2006, 08:02:53 AM
Legacy 5.0 seems to be doing all I want of it and has capabilities I have not yet explored.  Certainly, it is more than I need for now.

Legacy does require registration and unlocking to use more than 14 launches. This is free.  

FWIW, my download of Legacy has passed muster with Norton AntiVirus, SpyBot-Search & Destroy, Webroot Spy Sweeper, and Ad-Aware.
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 26, 2006, 03:06:17 PM
Cool..I know a few people are looking for one.

If anyone else wants me to do some research, just let me know. I have some time right now and I like doing it. I don't think anyone (except maybe Grampster) has been disappointed with what I've found.
Title: Family History
Post by: Iain on August 26, 2006, 03:11:49 PM
Fancy doing an entirely English one? Sort of curious about the family stories of selling wives at market and being banished to a small village for banditry or somesuch naughtiness.
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 26, 2006, 03:15:01 PM
I can try, although I won't make any promises.

Smiley

My grandma was born in England and I've been able to track her family pretty well. Not sure if I can find the old family stories you might be looking for, but send me the info you have and we'll see what we can come up with.
Title: Family History
Post by: Iain on August 26, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
Ok, I've sent you an email, any more info that you need I can probably find out.
Title: Family History
Post by: Chuck Dye on August 26, 2006, 06:46:56 PM
Barbara,

I have bumped into a couple of contradictions I would appreciate your take on:  what appear to be two different birth dates for my grandfather, same year, 1878, but different dates; and my great grandfather appears as the son of both a prior marriage in which ggGrannie appears to have married another of my family and as the son of the ggGrandpa we have "known".  Both men have the same last name (mine) and one record lists the "unknown" as marriage 1. Is there something worth pursuing here, or can this be written off to sketchy records?

Huck
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 26, 2006, 07:03:53 PM
No, its very possible and one those are the things it's fun to try to figure out.

The birthdate is probably a typo. One of the census gives a month and year of birth.. I think 1900, maybe 1910.

I'm assuming she may have married brothers? It's not uncommon, at all..often, a man marries one of his wife's sisters after she passes away.

Send me the info and I'll be glad to look it up.
Title: Family History
Post by: Chuck Dye on August 26, 2006, 08:49:58 PM
Thanks, an e-mail has been sent.

Guess I need to go hunting among the census records.

Think I'll get my sea legs on Dad's family:  Mom's runs back through Czechoslovakia and, supposedly, every Slavic and Nordic country.  A lusty, well traveled bunch little given to being ethnocentric!  Could be fun...
Title: Family History
Post by: Gewehr98 on August 26, 2006, 11:53:52 PM
Still getting over the Benedict Arnold link, myself. shocked

Regardless, there are a couple more branches in the tree I'd like to explore, time willing.  My parents are heading to Scotland in the next month, Mom wants to know which tartan is her pattern so when she goes shopping...
Title: Family History
Post by: Guest on August 27, 2006, 01:57:49 PM
Gewehr..you're the first person I've ever come across with a famous relative and you'd probably like to give him to someone else..sorry about that! Smiley

Iain..sent you some stuff. The family is well-researched back into the 1500s, from what I can tell.
Title: Family History
Post by: Moondoggie on August 27, 2006, 02:43:37 PM
Barbara;

Email sent.

I tried looking through online sources once, but didn't find anything that made sense.
Title: Family History
Post by: 280plus on August 27, 2006, 03:38:08 PM
Gewher is related to Benedict Arnold? Ever hear of the massacre at Ft Griswold in Groton CT? General Arnold commanded the British troops responsible for said massacre. Quite an intriuging story...

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gmasue/griswold.htm

The stories I read while searching the net do not coincide exactly with stories I have heard before. They now claim that the wounded were put in a wagon that "accidentally" got away and crashed into a tree when in the past it was related that the British did this for some cruel sport / torture.

The other story is that the massacre occured because the flag at the fort had gotten shot away. The British took it as a sign of surrender and stormed the fort, exposing themselves, meanwhile the Patriots kept on fighting. The British thought this to be some dishonorable trick and went beserk. It is implied that the British officer skewered Ledyard with his own sword as a "revenge" for the dishonorable trick played out under his command.

Sorry I stole your time and thread here for a second. Back to geneology...

Oh heck, here's one more link...

http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.asp?ArticleID=1147

Tongue
Title: Family History
Post by: Nightfall on August 27, 2006, 05:21:21 PM
E-mail sent. Help me Barbara-wan Kenobi, you're my only hope! Cheesy
Title: Family History
Post by: Moondoggie on August 27, 2006, 07:40:40 PM
Thanks a bunch, Barbara!

Gave me a lot to think about, though.

I've always thought (don't know why) that my ancestors didn't come to the US until after the Civil War.  Now I realize that they came much earlier in the 19th century.  

The great-great-grandfather who apparantly owned a brewery (and, OMG...slaves!!!) in Nashville is an eye-opener!

I had always thought the majority of my lineage were simple farming/worker bee folks...never imagined that there was any slave ownership or folks who lived in the CSA in my ancestry.
Title: Family History
Post by: Iain on August 28, 2006, 12:40:25 AM
I've sent you an email, but thanks again Barbara.

Gewehr - have to ask, just what is wrong with being related to Benedict Arnold? From my point of view he fought for the right side in the end.
Title: Family History
Post by: 280plus on August 28, 2006, 12:42:56 AM
LOL...

See? There's always two sides to a story...

Wink
Title: Family History
Post by: Iain on August 28, 2006, 12:48:38 AM
Looking it up helped me to understand a Family Guy joke anyway.

After being reported by Lois to the FCC for running an illegal cable channel, Peter asks her if breakfast will be Eggs Benedict Arnold.