Author Topic: 8th grade student supended and arrested for wearing a NRA shirt to school.  (Read 12120 times)

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So, I take it we can count you as a staunch supporter of diversity of opinion?  Or just opinions that you agree with?

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This from the guy equating AR15's with swastikas...

But yeah, if the kid was wearing a Che Guevera shirt or some other stupid nonsense I'd be opposed to him getting arrested for it.
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Sometime back, a student came to class wearing a shirt depicting a huge revolver pointing directly forward at whomever was in front of him. I am sure that he wore it just to see if he could make me twitch.

I just said, " " Nice shirt."

He looked so disappointed.
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I am starting to think this father (and other parents) need to be charge with child neglect... for putting their kids in public schools.

There is a significant home-school contingent in my social circles. Maybe my daughter needs to join them.

Yup.  Not even the districts that have managed to maintain some semblance of academic rigor can be trusted. 
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"obstruction and disturbing the education process"

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IF THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO THE STORY it would seem that they have a good case against the school, the arresting officer, and the police department - false arrest, false charges, official oppression, etc.

I agree, but at this point, the only people that we have heard from is the family and their attorney. 
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And by law the school has to keep quiet. Its a fact often exploited by a good lawyer.especially one trolling for a settlement. Once ot goes to discovery its fair game

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Follow up articles (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/wva-middle-school-student-charged-after-refusing-to-take-off-nra-shirt/2013/04/21/924179e6-aac4-11e2-9493-2ff3bf26c4b4_story.html and others) make the point that the kid was asked to exchange the shirt or turn it inside out because a teacher felt the image depicted was violent and violated the dress code which forbade same.  He refused and was sent to the office and the police were called after arguing with the teacher.  The cops told the kid to sit down and shut up while they sorted things out and the kid refused.  The police arrested him for obstruction.

But that story is not as exciting as ZOMG! Arrested only for wearing a shirt with Evil Black Rifles on it!  Constitution trampled underfoot by nanny Statist schools! 
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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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free speech is important, I'm glad he stood up for it as well as the NRA.
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free speech is important, I'm glad he stood up for it as well as the NRA.

free speech in school?

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/teachers/featured_articles/20080915monday.html
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Whoa, someone refused to shut up when a cop told him to?!?!?! Damn terrorist.
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free speech in school?

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/teachers/featured_articles/20080915monday.html

Yes, but while speech is limited in school, I fail to see how this shirt fell into one of the categories that can be banned. 

That being said, the kid needs to learn some restraint.  The side of me that sees the worst in people wonders if he was hoping to get arrested.  "Youth gets arrested for wearing an NRA shirt" is much more exciting than "Youth gets sent to the office for wearing an NRA shirt."

The dad has a Youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/blackriflear15
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BTDT. I forsee a school district getting spanked. The NRA has experiance with this particular type of spanking.

As for the arrest, depending on how mouthy the kid was, I can see it happening. Apparently no one explained to kiddo that mouthing off after the cops tell you to sit down and shutup is counter productive. It's really hard to deal with a situation like this rationally when you've got someone how will not take a chill pill.

I'm guessing you guys are unfamiliar with what a indignent preteen is fully capible of when feeling rightous and oppressed.
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I know what you're saying BSL.
 kids do press boundaries, but there is a limited right to free speech in schools.
The NRA should win, NRA shirts are generally not really offensive. If the teacher is offended by NRA shirts he/she needs to get a life.
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Kid is back in class, wearing the same shirt.    :rofl:

http://failover.washingtonpost.com/national/wva-teen-arrested-suspended-after-refusing-to-take-off-nra-t-shirt-returns-to-class/2013/04/22/5da91f90-ab6e-11e2-9493-2ff3bf26c4b4_story.html

According to the story, OTHER teens across that county are wearing similar shirts in support.  :rofl:

They now claim the suspension was for "disrupting the educational process" but it seems to me that it was the teacher who confronted him who did the disrupting.
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Kid is back in class, wearing the same shirt.    :rofl:

http://failover.washingtonpost.com/national/wva-teen-arrested-suspended-after-refusing-to-take-off-nra-t-shirt-returns-to-class/2013/04/22/5da91f90-ab6e-11e2-9493-2ff3bf26c4b4_story.html

According to the story, OTHER teens across that county are wearing similar shirts in support.  :rofl:

They now claim the suspension was for "disrupting the educational process" but it seems to me that it was the teacher who confronted him who did the disrupting.

I completely agree with this. 

What, wait?  You mean the kid was suspended.  I thought you meant the teacher and educrat. 
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http://www.splc.org/news/newsflash.asp?id=764   

BTDT. I forsee a school district getting spanked. The NRA has experiance with this particular type of spanking.

As for the arrest, depending on how mouthy the kid was, I can see it happening. Apparently no one explained to kiddo that mouthing off after the cops tell you to sit down and shutup is counter productive. It's really hard to deal with a situation like this rationally when you've got someone how will not take a chill pill.

I'm guessing you guys are unfamiliar with what a indignent preteen is fully capible of when feeling rightous and oppressed.

Disturbing visual:
Wayne LaPierre in dominatrix leathers.
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No. No, no, no, no. Do not give Harold Tuttle those kinds of ideas. He might shop that, and then he would have to be executed, and it would be all your fault.

No. You know the rules. It would still be your fault.

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Given the state of Publik Skuuls today, this just may prompt the administrators to start "NRA Clubs" on every campus from coast to coast . . .  :O
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http://www.splc.org/news/newsflash.asp?id=764    

BTDT. I forsee a school district getting spanked. The NRA has experiance with this particular type of spanking.

As for the arrest, depending on how mouthy the kid was, I can see it happening. Apparently no one explained to kiddo that mouthing off after the cops tell you to sit down and shutup is counter productive. It's really hard to deal with a situation like this rationally when you've got someone how will not take a chill pill.

I'm guessing you guys are unfamiliar with what a indignent preteen is fully capible of when feeling rightous and oppressed.

Good find. Here is a link to the actual case:

http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Published/031125.P.pdf
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