Author Topic: Looks like Bernie is winning Iowa... (Read 11372 times)

makattak · « **on:** February 02, 2020, 08:46:50 AM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/us/politics/democratic-iowa-poll-sanders.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

So bad is this that the Des Moines Register refused to release the last poll before the caucuses. (They've never done that before.)

Seems the Democrats have a problem with nominating the candidate they should have nominated last election.

If they'd have nominated Bernie last election, they might have won. If they'd have nominated Hillary in 2008, they'd have had the still young, telegenic Senator from Illinois to run later.

Instead they ran Obama in 2008 and now have 0 bench to pull from.

(Of course, I don't think it matters who they run this time, they will lose bigly.)

WLJ · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:35:53 AM »

Going to be rather interesting to see what the DNC pulls out of their rabbit hat to bury him again.

Ron · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:40:16 AM »

Bernie and Joe will both unexpectedly fall ill and drop out or pass away.

Luckily for the Democrats Hillary will step up and agree to run for president.

Her love of the American people and the Constitution wouldn't let it be otherwise.

WLJ · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:46:06 AM »

Yeah, right after I typed that I had a version of Hillary's head popping up out of a rabbit hat saying "Surprise!" Not 12:00 yet is it?

MechAg94 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:48:07 AM »

Iowa is always a bit different than the other state primaries. Bernie has some dedicated supporters, but they alone won't get him the nomination. Will he get enough other support/votes to challenge like he did last time? I don't know.

Do any of you know Democrats around you? Are they enthusiastic about any of the candidates?

Ben · « **Reply #5 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:56:25 AM »

Quote from: WLJ on February 02, 2020, 10:35:53 AM

Going to be rather interesting to see what the DNC pulls out of their rabbit hat to bury him again.

I believe the device they're using this time around is called a Bloomberg.

Hooray for billionaires and $10 million a pop gun control commercials!

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #6 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:19:53 AM »

There's talk of changing the rules again.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dnc-members-discuss-changing-rules-to-stop-sanders-from-getting-nomination-report-says

WLJ · « **Reply #7 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:30:50 AM »

Quote from: fistful on February 02, 2020, 11:19:53 AM

There's talk of changing the rules again.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dnc-members-discuss-changing-rules-to-stop-sanders-from-getting-nomination-report-says

They're "living" rules.

Silver Bullet · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:37:06 AM »

Quote

Do any of you know Democrats around you?

Of course not!

dogmush · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:54:25 AM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on February 02, 2020, 10:48:07 AM

Do any of you know Democrats around you? Are they enthusiastic about any of the candidates?

The unit I currently work with is based in Iowa, and one of the guys in my section is a Democrat.

He is not a Sanders fan, and leans towards Buttigieg. He thinks Bernie's long history of open Socialism will be too much for the middle to swallow in a general election, especially the rust belt union folks.

MillCreek · « **Reply #10 on:** February 02, 2020, 12:13:01 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on February 02, 2020, 10:48:07 AM

Do any of you know Democrats around you? Are they enthusiastic about any of the candidates?

Warren, Sanders, Klobuchar and Buttigieg in that order.

Ron · « **Reply #11 on:** February 02, 2020, 12:45:55 PM »

Interesting speculations on Bernie, Tulsi and Hillary.

I guess we should expect things to get even crazier.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/02/01/can-bernie-and-tulsi-survive-hillarys-urge-to-save-the-dnc/

charby · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2020, 01:17:58 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on February 02, 2020, 10:48:07 AM

Do any of you know Democrats around you? Are they enthusiastic about any of the candidates?

Mostly Bernie or Warren. 2nd runners up are Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Yang. Everyone else doesn't seem to even make a statistical blip.

WLJ · « **Reply #13 on:** February 02, 2020, 01:24:55 PM »

If they pull another 2016 on Bernie this time it could light one heck of a civil war within the party

charby · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2020, 01:26:31 PM »

Quote from: WLJ on February 02, 2020, 01:24:55 PM

If they pull another 2016 on Bernie this time it could light one heck of a civil war within the party

I was thinking about that last night if they anoint the fallen queen at this summer's party convention.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2020, 01:29:30 PM »

Quote from: WLJ on February 02, 2020, 11:30:50 AM

They're "living" rules.

HankB · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:13:16 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on February 02, 2020, 11:54:25 AM

The unit I currently work with is based in Iowa, and one of the guys in my section is a Democrat.

He is not a Sanders fan, and leans towards Buttigieg . . .

Just tell him not to get his hopes up, Buttigieg already has a husband.

Ron · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:42:03 PM »

Quote from: HankB on February 02, 2020, 03:13:16 PM

Just tell him not to get his hopes up, Buttigieg already has a husband.

Does the country want another president that leads from behind?

Fly320s · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:40:13 PM »

Did you guys know Deval Patrick is running for president? I didn't either, but I saw his campaign bus today.

Pb · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2020, 05:05:45 PM »

So, who are we hoping gets the nomination? So they can lose I mean

charby · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2020, 05:26:01 PM »

Quote from: BTR on February 02, 2020, 05:05:45 PM

So, who are we hoping gets the nomination? So they can lose I mean

Democrats have a way of rallying together behind their candidate, I don't think they are going to stay home this fall even if it is Bloomberg on the DEM ticket.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2020, 06:09:50 PM »

Quote from: BTR on February 02, 2020, 05:05:45 PM

So, who are we hoping gets the nomination? So they can lose I mean

The leadership seems awfully worried about Sanders. It wouldn't be surprising if they helped Warren with her little milkshake duck ambush a couple of weeks ago. Then again some say CNN is the Democrats' leadership these days, so...

charby · « **Reply #22 on:** February 03, 2020, 08:53:05 AM »

I'm waiting for the news to spin a low GOP turnout on Iowa caucus night.

charby · « **Reply #23 on:** February 03, 2020, 10:13:50 AM »

Quote from: charby on February 02, 2020, 01:26:31 PM

I was thinking about that last night if they anoint the fallen queen at this summer's party convention.

More like the fallen knight (using this term loosely)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476

brimic · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2020, 10:19:01 AM »

On the radio this morning, I heard a discussion about the possibility of a Bernie Bro chimpout in Milwaukee if he isn't nominated.
I say let it happen.

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