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Title: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 05, 2010, 02:48:56 PM
i was moving some stuff and hooked up my 26inch 720p tv in front of my keyboard and thought i would post in case anyone else was thinking about trying it, it works pretty good you have to move back some. and working with pics is out(resolution is to low =([scratch that, you can do basic image manipulation but no detail work =D pays to try stuff :angel:]) but if your trying to save space for an e-mail/web box, it's good. you do have to move back about 3-5 feet for it to look good. :angel: and you might have to increase your font sizes, but i kinda like it. if this was a 1080p set i could see using it in a single display setup. [popcorn] here's the cable i bought. (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10201&cs_id=1020105&p_id=3339&seq=1&format=2)  :angel:(it's 15 foot, i was planing on setting up the tv as a second monitor off to the side for movies n such[thinking about netflix [popcorn]]) sorry for wasting your time. =)

oh! you have to turn sharpness way down(yeah it affects the d-sub :facepalm:)

ok, gaming is out. :facepalm: there is at least half a sec input lag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag). :mad:
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: zahc on May 05, 2010, 02:52:07 PM
I'm still unclear about the difference between a LCD monitor and TV. It seems like they should be the same thing, but I'm not sure. I have a HTPC and my Sony tube TV is very suboptimal for the task.

Any tips on buying an LCD panel with the express intent of using it with a computer, to watch video, and possibly play games? What kind of features do you need to look for in a TV that make it suitable for this kind of use?
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: AJ Dual on May 05, 2010, 03:05:23 PM
Interesting. Does your TV have HDMI input or DVI?
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 05, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
if 27" is big enough i would start by looking at these. =D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005142
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176125
they are monitors instead of tvs so i would be willing to bet they're much faster. =) the first one has a tv tuner built-in. [popcorn] i usually start at tom's hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Peripherals,2/Monitors,8/) for monitor reviews(and pretty much all other computer stuff ;)) the biggest difference to me is the resolution =| i'm used to 1600x1200 and 1366x768 is more than a little cramped. =| so i would try to go 1080p (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Common_Video_Resolutions_2.svg). =D(1920x1080)

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/259646-33-monitor-difference

my tv has 2 hdmi, 2 component, 2 s-video/composite, and a d-sub. hooking a computer up to the hdmi(my mainboard has a built-in video card with an hdmi adaptor) limits you to 480i/p 720p and 1080p and text is messed up on all of them. :facepalm: the d-sub allows a list of resolutions.(my tv had them listed in the listed manual i think they would be different for each tv =() at 1366x768 you can set truetype to have text look ok. =D
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: Harold Tuttle on May 05, 2010, 03:29:07 PM
my samsung 40 looks great as a monitor
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 05, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
I'm still unclear about the difference between a LCD monitor and TV. It seems like they should be the same thing, but I'm not sure. I have a HTPC and my Sony tube TV is very suboptimal for the task.

Any tips on buying an LCD panel with the express intent of using it with a computer, to watch video, and possibly play games? What kind of features do you need to look for in a TV that make it suitable for this kind of use?

I run a Windows Media Center PC on my 42" LCD widescreen.  The TV is 1080p, but I run the whole setup at 1600x900 resolution to make web browsing and other app use, bearable.  Otherwise, fonts are just too small.  I have yet to find a way to adjust fonts to be legible at 1080p resolution and have that setting stick.  IE/Mozilla seems to be the weak spot.

I game on it sometimes, but mostly it runs Media Center and DVR's for me.

I like the setup.  Thinking of changing over to a Ubuntu open source TV package though.
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 05, 2010, 04:06:49 PM
AZRedhawk44 if your using firefox(if not at least think about it [popcorn]) ctrl-+ zooms the entire page. [popcorn] for the other apps, it depends on OS and what apps, but you can enlarge the fonts under display proprieties- advanced - general. =D some apps it works some apps you can't read it at all. :facepalm:
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: Mabs2 on May 05, 2010, 04:12:26 PM
The thing with HD TVs that I've seen is that they're designed to be viewed from across the room distance.
You'd probably be better off with a 24 inch Dell, that is, unless the TV you got looks good at that range.
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: Iain on May 05, 2010, 04:18:33 PM
I do fine with a 37" 1080p TV as a media centre/pc.

I sit on the sofa with a wireless keyboard and mouse and happily browse the internet from about 8 foot away. Just adjusted some settings, upped font sizes and have Firefox default to 170% page zoom. Works really well.
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: Mabs2 on May 05, 2010, 04:27:21 PM
I do fine with a 37" 1080p TV as a media centre/pc.

I sit on the sofa with a wireless keyboard and mouse and happily browse the internet from about 8 foot away. Just adjusted some settings, upped font sizes and have Firefox default to 170% page zoom. Works really well.
I couldn't do that.  I can't stand sitting across from a screen.  That's half the reason I stopped watching TV.  Couches and recliners aren't comfortable and the TV is too far away.  I prefer watching and playing games from my desk.  Need to get a monitor one day that I can hook my consoles up to.
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 05, 2010, 04:52:14 PM
edit: whoops got it backwards sorry. :facepalm:
mabs, try sitting closer. especially for movies. [popcorn] (http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-charted-viewing-distance-to-screen-size/) kinda like the bacon salt, the first hit is free. =D

edit: oh, and if your tv looks really good at a distance but like crap up close turn your sharpness down!!!!!!!!! ;) when this is marked down to 15bucks it really is worth it. =) (http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Essentials-Basics-Blu-ray/dp/B000V6LST0)
better link (http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter)
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: Mabs2 on May 05, 2010, 05:04:44 PM
Just something I've seen with other peoples' TVs.  I don't have the money for one nor do I want one anyway.
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 05, 2010, 05:17:20 PM
lol, you can get a monitor that works as a tv for less than one that don't now. ;) and if that's the case it probably was the sharpness making them look bad up close.(if they were 1080p) did you click the bottom link(the on i added on the last[unmarked] edit) [popcorn] that's how close you can get to a set without seeing pixels. is handy for picking a pc monitor. ;)
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: drewtam on May 05, 2010, 06:14:25 PM
to sum up what has been discovered in this thread...

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgs.xkcd.com%2Fcomics%2Fhdtv.png&hash=ccc3a1f2c0b31fd86ef467479137b15397b6e4bd)
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 05, 2010, 07:08:07 PM
bazinga, :facepalm: now check the dates. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television) ;)
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: Mabs2 on May 05, 2010, 07:16:06 PM
It impresses me because I still use a CRT monitor. :>
I'd buy an LCD, but I need the few dollars I make to buy food.
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: Cromlech on May 05, 2010, 07:42:17 PM
I was using a 1080p HDTV with my PC for about 1.5 years, though I've gone back to triple screens since.

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^Crysis Warhead^
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 05, 2010, 09:03:13 PM
nice. [popcorn]
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: coppertales on May 06, 2010, 11:27:29 AM
The owner's manual says I can use my 42 inch TV as a computer monitor if I want to.  The wife says no to the thought of hooking my flight sim up to it.....chris3
Title: Re: using a tv as a monitor
Post by: sanglant on May 06, 2010, 03:19:44 PM
The wife says no to the thought of hooking my flight sim up to it.....chris3
party poopper. =| most would at least say, lets see what it looks like. [popcorn]