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Title: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Angel Eyes on August 30, 2022, 10:55:29 AM
Have any APS members had dealings with this company?

https://sylvesterammunition.com/

They have prices that look pretty good (almost too good in some cases).  I'm a bit leery because they don't accept credit cards: payment has to be made through one of several apps (Zelle, Venmo, Google Pay, etc.).  Also, they appear to be a fairly new business so they haven't built a reputation like Midway, Brownells, et al. 

So ... I'm looking for informed opinions before placing an order.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: lee n. field on August 30, 2022, 11:01:50 AM
Have any APS members had dealings with this company?

https://sylvesterammunition.com/

They have prices that look pretty good (almost too good in some cases).  I'm a bit leery because they don't accept credit cards: payment has to be made through one of several apps (Zelle, Venmo, Google Pay, etc.).  Also, they appear to be a fairly new business so they haven't built a reputation like Midway, Brownells, et al. 

Bitcoin too.

"Run, Forrest, run!"

sure sign of a scam site.

Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: K Frame on August 30, 2022, 11:07:59 AM
" I'm a bit leery because they don't accept credit cards: payment has to be made through one of several apps (Zelle, Venmo, Google Pay, etc.).  "

That is generally accepted to be a VERY high probability of a scam.

Stay away.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: K Frame on August 30, 2022, 11:09:34 AM
How convenient that virtually everything on their 9mm page is ON SALE! down from the original price of... $400.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: K Frame on August 30, 2022, 11:12:35 AM
Isn't that cute... they're also selling Glocks...

But if you add one to your cart you can have it shipped directly to you! No need to go through an FFL at all!
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: MechAg94 on August 30, 2022, 11:15:01 AM
How convenient that virtually everything on their 9mm page is ON SALE! down from the original price of... $400.
Even Speer Gold Dot which is just crazy.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: WLJ on August 30, 2022, 11:15:59 AM
Isn't that cute... they're also selling Glocks...

But if you add one to your cart you can have it shipped directly to you! No need to go through an FFL at all!

Nothing suspicious about that at all.  :O
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: WLJ on August 30, 2022, 11:20:26 AM
Either a total scam site or a Honey Pot
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: cordex on August 30, 2022, 11:26:06 AM
Definitely raises all the scam flags.  I wouldn't buy from them.

I have been chatting with them for a bit and am not at all reassured.  No FFL at that address either, despite claiming to sell guns.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Angel Eyes on August 30, 2022, 11:28:47 AM
Either a total scam site or a Honey Pot

That was my other thought.  Some .gov agency looking to entrap the next Randy Weaver?
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Nick1911 on August 30, 2022, 11:35:14 AM
Yeeaaaa...

I've reported abuse to the nameserver/host on the basis that selling firearms interstate without an FFL is in violation of federal law.  That should get it suspended at least.

In reality, it's almost certainly a scam that'll never ship anything to anybody.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Brad Johnson on August 30, 2022, 11:39:39 AM
That was my other thought.  Some .gov agency looking to entrap the next Randy Weaver?


Same.

That, or some self-serving anti activist setting up a bogus Evil Guns Direct! page so other anti activists could use it as a "See, we told you so" example.

Brad
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: K Frame on August 30, 2022, 12:02:17 PM
OK....

Phone number time...

They claim the store is in Miami.

On the top banner for each page, on the left, is (352)-474-5097. That's a Gainesville, Florida, number. Could be a cell phone, though. And searching the number does bring up a couple of hits for Sylvester Ammo.

Just called this number and it's a Google Voice number. It said "Please state your name and Google Voice will try to connect you." Yeah, that does NOT sound like a legitimate business number.

But...

If you go to the contact us page and scroll down, they have a nice map showing their location in Miami, but the phone number listed there is 718-951-3888.

A quick google on that says that area code 718 is for... Brooklyn. New York.

And that that specific number is assigned to the Sam Ash Music Store.

And the Sri Adichunchanagiri Shikshana Trust.

And ATX Pizza.com

And Zenith Nominees, Limited... In Lagos, Nigeria.

It looks like the only legitimate association with that number (or the listed fax number) is for Sam Ash. I called the number and it was answered by as Sam Ash.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, about that website is wrong on so many levels.






Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Boomhauer on August 30, 2022, 12:06:44 PM
Anybody that falls for that deserves to be separated from their money.

Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: K Frame on August 30, 2022, 12:16:10 PM
One of the addresses they give for the store is 9150 NW 22nd Ave, Miami.

Doesn't look like an actual store front to me...

https://www.bing.com/maps?form=MOZLBR&pc=MOZR&q=9150+NW+22nd+Ave%2C+Miami%2C+FL+33147

That photo is as of January of this year.


The other address (on the contact us) page is 7270 NW 12th St, Miami, FL 33126

That doesn't look like either a warehouse or a storefront, either...

https://www.bing.com/maps?form=MOZLBR&pc=MOZR&q=7270+NW+12th+St%2C+Miami%2C+FL+33126
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: WLJ on August 30, 2022, 12:28:37 PM
Hello, this is the FB.. Sylvester Ammunition, how may I arrest, I mean help you?
Sure we can ship a Glock directly to your house. Would you like a bump stock or an auto sear with that?
Just tell us when you'll be home because you do have to sign for it.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Ben on August 30, 2022, 01:10:41 PM
Interesting that "shotgun" and "handgun" are each separate words on the site (shot gun, hand gun). Kinda what an "English as a second language" person might do.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: K Frame on August 30, 2022, 01:12:23 PM
"Kinda what an "English as a second language" person might do. "

RACIST!
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: cordex on August 30, 2022, 01:12:54 PM
Interesting that "shotgun" and "handgun" are each separate words on the site (shot gun, hand gun). Kinda what an "English as a second language" person might do.
And under shotgun you get .22LR ammo.
And under .22LR ammo you get Aguila 30 grain ammo (advertised as 40 grain ammo) for $0.70 per round.

If you click Shot Guns it takes you to a category called Short Guns.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: HankB on August 30, 2022, 01:13:10 PM
Hello, this is the FB.. Sylvester Ammunition, how may I arrest, I mean help you?
Sure we can ship a Glock directly to your house. Would you like a bump stock or an auto sear with that?
Just tell us when you'll be home because you do have to sign for it.
Thank you - this is the BAT . . . errr, I mean just Joe Sixpack in Tennessee. I'm really looking for a solvent trap and forced reset trigger. Can you help me with these?
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: MechAg94 on August 30, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Speaking of sites I have never heard of:  Have any of you heard of www. bereli.com? 

They came up a while back as they list a rifle/pistol I was looking at.  They have good prices on some things.  Just had never heard of them.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Ben on August 30, 2022, 02:43:35 PM
Speaking of sites I have never heard of:  Have any of you heard of www. bereli.com? 

My understanding is that the Bereli M4 is one of the best combat shotguns around.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Angel Eyes on August 30, 2022, 02:49:45 PM
 
My understanding is that the Bereli M4 is one of the best combat shotguns around.

 ;/

Bereli is a real business. I ordered an LPVO from them last year.  Scope was defective when it arrived.  Returned it and got a full refund with no fuss. 
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: lee n. field on August 30, 2022, 03:26:39 PM
Speaking of sites I have never heard of:  Have any of you heard of www. bereli.com? 

They came up a while back as they list a rifle/pistol I was looking at.  They have good prices on some things.  Just had never heard of them.

Doesn't trip some of my usual mental filters.   

Adding a random revolver to the cart, I had it nag me for barrel length.  Which strikes me more config work than the scam sites usually have put into them.  Checkout had an FFL finder that worked.  Again, signs of more work put into it than the usual scammer bothers with.
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: MillCreek on August 30, 2022, 05:22:02 PM
Sylvester ammunition, a subsidiary of TweetyBird Holdings. 
Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: Angel Eyes on August 30, 2022, 05:56:49 PM
Sylvester ammunition, a subsidiary of TweetyBird Holdings. 

I tawt I taw a honey pot.

Title: Re: Sylvester Ammunition
Post by: K Frame on September 01, 2022, 07:26:21 AM
Get your ammo yet, Angel Eyes?

:rofl: