Post by: Ben on November 20, 2006, 03:51:50 PM
If the coins were at least made of metal that equaled a dollar in value....otherwise give me easy to carry paper.
/rant
Post by: Car Knocker on November 20, 2006, 04:07:58 PM
Post by: Eleven Mike on November 20, 2006, 05:10:23 PM
As an aside, most supermarkets seem to sell stamps at no markup;
Yeah, I think that's by law. The markup part anyway.
Post by: Standing Wolf on November 20, 2006, 05:52:46 PM
Post by: Sylvilagus Aquaticus on November 20, 2006, 06:01:36 PM
Ever try explaining to an immigrant convenience store worker that a Sacajawea dollar and a Susan B. Anthony dollar are equal and valid tender?
Ugh.
At least it's something else to give to my young nieces and nephew when I see them.
Regards,
Rabbit.
Post by: Vodka7 on November 20, 2006, 06:30:33 PM
Ever try explaining to an immigrant convenience store worker that a Sacajawea dollar and a Susan B. Anthony dollar are equal and valid tender?
Good Lord, isn't that the truth? My favorite irony is that here in Philly, the change machines in the train stations give you dollar coins, but well over 50% of the ticket machines don't take them! And the two are right next to each other! Not to mention our ticket machines don't even take credit or debit cards. I guess I'm still spoiled from NYC.
Post by: Devonai on November 20, 2006, 07:45:58 PM
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Ever try explaining to an immigrant convenience store worker that a Sacajawea dollar and a Susan B. Anthony dollar are equal and valid tender?
Hell, I've had 16 year old clerks turn them down.
Post by: Zed on November 20, 2006, 11:15:25 PM
Post by: Declaration Day on November 21, 2006, 01:53:40 AM
Post by: K Frame on November 21, 2006, 02:26:01 AM
There was a long time during which the LIRR machines in Grand Central gave out dollar coins, but wouldn't take them.
I, too, like dollar coins.
But every dollar coin the US will ever make is destined for failure as long as Congress doesn't have the balls to pull the dollar bill from production.
The new coins will have presidents on them, starting with George Washington, 3 months later John Adams, 3 months after that Thomas Jefferson, and so forth and so on.
This is a series that I might actually collect.
Post by: lee n. field on November 21, 2006, 02:40:56 AM
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That's government for you: nobody wants dollar coins, so government introduces more dollar coins.
Nobody wants dollar coins that look like they're made of brass, or can be mistaken for quarters. What were they thinking?
Post by: Mr_Dove on November 21, 2006, 06:33:45 AM
Post by: Vodka7 on November 21, 2006, 10:05:29 AM
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There was a long time during which the LIRR machines in Grand Central gave out dollar coins, but wouldn't take them.
The LIRR doesn't run into Grand Central, maybe you meant the Metro North? Or Penn Station? But, I didn't know that. I just don't see why I should have to wait on line, talk to a person, hand over my CC, and wait for a receipt when in NYC I could do the same transaction in 30 seconds at a machine.
But, to stay on topic, one of the things I really don't like about going to Canada is having to carry around a pocketful of heavy coins to pay for anything. I feel like a grandmother rooting around in my pocket to produce a handful of coins that I then have to pick around in with my finger to find the right change.
I do like that the new coins are gold colored, which will make things a bit easier--as easy to pick out as a Susan B Anthony, but still round, like a coin should be.
Post by: K Frame on November 21, 2006, 10:27:16 AM
You're right, it was the Metro North. I'd take Amtrak into Penn Station, then grab a taxi over to Grand Central and take Metro North to the White Plains Station where my girlfriend would pick me up.
The first time I plugged a $10 into the fare machine to get a ticket and saw only a couple of coins drop down I was SORELY pissed. I was sure that the machine had shorted me, until I realized that the quarters it had given me were Susan Bs.
Occasionally she'd meet me at Grand Central and we'd have dinner at the Oyster Bar.
GREAT seafood, but holy crap, the stale urine smells in the halls getting to the restaurant were atrocious.
Post by: grampster on November 21, 2006, 10:47:24 AM
Post by: BrokenPaw on November 21, 2006, 10:47:47 AM
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Although the size, weight and metal composition of the new Presidential $1 Coin will be identical to that of the Golden Dollar featuring Sacagawea,
Is that's the case, the new coin is not something I'll be using; those Sacagawea dollars corroded at the drop of a hat.-BP
Post by: crt360 on November 21, 2006, 11:29:33 AM
Post by: thebaldguy on November 21, 2006, 01:36:25 PM
"...you can take it to the bank and get a real dollar!"
I love that one.
I was 14 when the Susan B. Anthony coins came out. My mom came home from the bank and showed me the new coin.
"It looks like a quarter, Mom!"
Few machines took the coins in those days. Not many more take them today. A muncipal parking ramp owned by the city gives the Sacagawea coins as change, but it won't take them. Figure that one out.
I know most countries have dollar coins. I know most countries have strippers as well. I'm guessing they solved that problem.
I see the problems with coins vs. bills. I cashed in 40 Sacagawea dollars a week ago. It was awkward having that much weight in a coat pocket. I know coins are heavy and bills wear out causing replacement costs. The feds could simply quit printing dollar bills and force us all to use dollar coins, but public opinion will never allow that without a huge fight. I can't believe that Nixon will be on a dollar coin down the road. They should have stuck with Sacagawea. I'm sure lots of folks feel the same way about other bad presidents too numerous to mention. I have been told the 50 state quarters are a money maker for the feds; I guess they're trying the same thing with a larger denomination to remove dollars from circulation and into peoples' collections.
Post by: doczinn on November 21, 2006, 02:11:59 PM
The reason so many machines won't accept them for payment is because people don't like them. Why spend the time and money to update the machines for a coin nobody uses?
Post by: El Tejon on November 21, 2006, 02:20:15 PM
Post by: Lee on November 21, 2006, 03:24:55 PM
Post by: Kharn on November 21, 2006, 06:02:04 PM
Post by: K Frame on November 21, 2006, 09:37:41 PM
Yep, funny how virtually all of the machines that give dollar coins in change are held by PRIVATE companies...
The only official government use of dollar coins as change that I know of is stamp machines, and they're kind of few and far between.
Railroads, parking companies and the like like dollar coins because kicking a coin out of a machine as change is a LOT less of a hassle. Bill dispensing machines require a lot more servicing to ensure that they're working correctly.
Post by: doczinn on November 22, 2006, 06:29:13 AM
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Yep, funny how virtually all of the machines that give dollar coins in change are held by PRIVATE companies...
You think mass transit and municipal parking garages are run by private companies? Not in any way that matters, they aren't.
Post by: wingnutx on November 22, 2006, 06:45:46 AM
That's the price I pay for being able to put a five dollar bill into the slot.
I just hope the new coins will be larger, not quarter-sized.
Post by: lupinus on November 22, 2006, 06:46:02 AM
I reach into my pocket for change and I can tell what is what, excpet for danged quarters and dollar coins.
Post by: The Rabbi on November 22, 2006, 07:19:39 AM
I remember the Eisenhower dollar. People complained it was too heavy.
I remember the SB Anthony dollar. People complained it was easily mistaken for a quarter.
I remember the Sacagawea dollar. People complained it was odd looking.
There is virtually no way to make a coin that would satisfy all these issues. Also I think part of it is that when they use the coin as a platform for political correctness they lose the majority of Americans.
Post by: wingnutx on November 22, 2006, 08:39:52 AM
Especially the silver ones
Post by: Guest on November 22, 2006, 09:13:41 AM
The discussion of which tokens to prefer is sickening.
Post by: wingnutx on November 22, 2006, 09:25:23 AM
It's like eating MREs.
They are what I have to deal with, so I might as well get the one I like the best.
Post by: Guest on November 22, 2006, 09:32:21 AM
Kind of easily sickened, eh?
Guilty.
Yes, in my old age, certain topics really get to me. I experienced hard money and miss it dearly. The idea that some youngsters are "collecting" these modern tokens is truly revolting.
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 22, 2006, 09:41:52 AM
Post by: wingnutx on November 22, 2006, 09:45:14 AM
Might as well go for a twofer
Post by: Guest on November 22, 2006, 10:19:33 AM
No, you just enjoy taking the moral "high road" of anarchism on a "statist" website, and urinating on us "statists."
That, too.
Post by: K Frame on November 22, 2006, 06:43:20 PM
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Yep, funny how virtually all of the machines that give dollar coins in change are held by PRIVATE companies...
You think mass transit and municipal parking garages are run by private companies? Not in any way that matters, they aren't.Yep, you're right. Municipal parking garages are at the forefront of the vast Illuminati conspiracy to make you all into uberdrones. Every time you get onto a city bus you're bombarded with subliminal Hitlerian messages of statist conformity.
The New York subway system, the Washington DC metro system and just about every major transport system I can think of in this country are
are established as semi-private corporations that operate independently of direct governmental control.
Washington metro's parking lot/garage concessions are subbed out to private contractors.
Hum... You know, virtually ever mile of highway and interstate in the United States is owned/maintained by a governmental entity. How uberdroned did you feel the last time you pulled into traffic?
You'd better check your tinfoil. I think it's wearing thin on top.
Post by: doczinn on November 23, 2006, 08:27:30 PM
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Municipal parking garages are at the forefront of the vast Illuminati conspiracy to make you all into uberdrones. Every time you get onto a city bus you're bombarded with subliminal Hitlerian messages of statist conformity.
Nice straw man there, slick.
Post by: The Rabbi on November 24, 2006, 01:52:52 AM
Post by: 280plus on November 24, 2006, 03:39:00 AM
All the sets are in safe deposit but I happen to have a stray 2000 set here for some reason. It contains a Sacajawea dollar. And the old Jefferson Nickel too. Beautiful coins and call me biased but I still think the CT one is the best of them all.
Post by: wingnutx on November 24, 2006, 08:51:01 AM
I like the titanium idea. Give it a black finish and it'll be tactical!
Post by: Volt on November 24, 2006, 08:15:52 PM
Post by: MechAg94 on November 25, 2006, 11:54:02 AM
Plus may be that it forces you to use your change rather than filling jars and such with it.
Post by: gunsmith on November 26, 2006, 03:17:44 AM
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I know most countries have dollar coins. I know most countries have strippers as well. I'm guessing they solved that problem.
Heh! maybe thats the real reason guys don't like coin dollars
Post by: Lee on November 26, 2006, 05:26:38 PM
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I know most countries have dollar coins. I know most countries have strippers as well. I'm guessing they solved that problem.
Heh! maybe thats the real reason guys don't like coin dollars"
Ummm ...without being too graphic, I'd think they would be more unpopular with the strippers than with the guys.
Post by: TarpleyG on November 27, 2006, 06:27:41 AM
Greg
Post by: thebaldguy on November 27, 2006, 01:51:52 PM
Post by: Creeping Incrementalism on December 04, 2006, 12:01:43 PM
But if people want to use more coins... to "manage" that change you'd really need a pocket-sized change purse, which exist, but it is a pain to pack that in one pocket and a wallet in another.
Post by: Peter Ratner on December 14, 2006, 12:03:32 PM
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Title: Re: Dollar Coins Making a Comeback?Post by: The Rabbi on December 14, 2006, 12:40:34 PM