Did Obama name his VeeP?

[agricola]

anyone watching the Springfield speech?  Obama:

"Let me introduce the next President.... Vice President, Joe Biden!"

 

[De Selby]

anyone watching the Springfield speech?  Obama:

"Let me introduce the next President.... Vice President, Joe Biden!"

 

The new slogan:

Obama 08-Change through Continuity.

[agricola]

anyone watching the Springfield speech?  Obama:

"Let me introduce the next President.... Vice President, Joe Biden!"

 

The new slogan:

Obama 08-Change through Continuity.

They had to use that as Mao trademarked "Continuous Revolution", iirc.

 

[Scout26]

He really didn't pick Biden did he ??

 

[Monkeyleg]

Here's one of Biden's answers to questions posed to him in the 2004 South Carolina Primary debate:

Q: How many of you, in your adult lifetime, have had a gun in the house?
[Show of hands]: Senator Gravel, Senator Biden, Senator Dodd, Governor Richardson, Congressman Kucinich.
Q: Sen. Biden, what could the federal government have done to save those kids at Virginia Tech?
A: What they could have done is three things.
In the so-called Biden crime bill, we put 100,000 cops on the street. I've worked with law enforcement for the past 30 years, with armor-piercing bullets, waiting periods, etc. But the one thing that's clear: We should not have let the assault weapons ban lapse.
We should close this so-called gun show loophole, so you can't go into a gun show and buy a gun that you couldn't buy walking into a gun shop.
We have let the country down in the way in which we have not focused on mental illness. We should know that your kid is safe at college. If teachers determine that a child is a danger, the school should be able to take them off the campus.

The usual Brady talking points, which have earned him a much-deserved "F" rating from every national gun group.

[De Selby]

Here's one of Biden's answers to questions posed to him in the 2004 South Carolina Primary debate:

Q: How many of you, in your adult lifetime, have had a gun in the house?
[Show of hands]: Senator Gravel, Senator Biden, Senator Dodd, Governor Richardson, Congressman Kucinich.
Q: Sen. Biden, what could the federal government have done to save those kids at Virginia Tech?
A: What they could have done is three things.
In the so-called Biden crime bill, we put 100,000 cops on the street. I've worked with law enforcement for the past 30 years, with armor-piercing bullets, waiting periods, etc. But the one thing that's clear: We should not have let the assault weapons ban lapse.
We should close this so-called gun show loophole, so you can't go into a gun show and buy a gun that you couldn't buy walking into a gun shop.
We have let the country down in the way in which we have not focused on mental illness. We should know that your kid is safe at college. If teachers determine that a child is a danger, the school should be able to take them off the campus.

The usual Brady talking points, which have earned him a much-deserved "F" rating from every national gun group.

The problem is that McCain will have a tough time attacking Biden on plans that McCain has vocally supported in the past.

[gunsmith]

Biden!!!
LOL!!!

[agricola]

Here's one of Biden's answers to questions posed to him in the 2004 South Carolina Primary debate:

Q: How many of you, in your adult lifetime, have had a gun in the house?
[Show of hands]: Senator Gravel, Senator Biden, Senator Dodd, Governor Richardson, Congressman Kucinich.
Q: Sen. Biden, what could the federal government have done to save those kids at Virginia Tech?
A: What they could have done is three things.
In the so-called Biden crime bill, we put 100,000 cops on the street. I've worked with law enforcement for the past 30 years, with armor-piercing bullets, waiting periods, etc. But the one thing that's clear: We should not have let the assault weapons ban lapse.
We should close this so-called gun show loophole, so you can't go into a gun show and buy a gun that you couldn't buy walking into a gun shop.
We have let the country down in the way in which we have not focused on mental illness. We should know that your kid is safe at college. If teachers determine that a child is a danger, the school should be able to take them off the campus.

The usual Brady talking points, which have earned him a much-deserved "F" rating from every national gun group.

The problem is that McCain will have a tough time attacking Biden on plans that McCain has vocally supported in the past.

No offence but I would have thought that, given the candidates, 2a will not be an issue this election.  

[Tallpine]

Q: Sen. Biden, what could the federal government have done to save those kids at Virginia Tech?
A: What they could have done is three things.
In the so-called Biden crime bill, we put 100,000 cops on the street. I've worked with law enforcement for the past 30 years, with armor-piercing bullets, waiting periods, etc. But the one thing that's clear: We should not have let the assault weapons ban lapse.
We should close this so-called gun show loophole, so you can't go into a gun show and buy a gun that you couldn't buy walking into a gun shop.

Is this guy stupid or hard of hearing

VT shooter did not use an "assault weapon" and he did in fact buy his guns by walking into a gun store.  

The third item (not quoted) at least had some relevance to the question.

[Perd Hapley]

Let's just be happy that they totally screwed up this text message thing that was supposed to be such a brilliant move.   

[Boomhauer]

Here's one of Biden's answers to questions posed to him in the 2004 South Carolina Primary debate:

Q: How many of you, in your adult lifetime, have had a gun in the house?
[Show of hands]: Senator Gravel, Senator Biden, Senator Dodd, Governor Richardson, Congressman Kucinich.
Q: Sen. Biden, what could the federal government have done to save those kids at Virginia Tech?
A: What they could have done is three things.
In the so-called Biden crime bill, we put 100,000 cops on the street. I've worked with law enforcement for the past 30 years, with armor-piercing bullets, waiting periods, etc. But the one thing that's clear: We should not have let the assault weapons ban lapse.
We should close this so-called gun show loophole, so you can't go into a gun show and buy a gun that you couldn't buy walking into a gun shop.
We have let the country down in the way in which we have not focused on mental illness. We should know that your kid is safe at college. If teachers determine that a child is a danger, the school should be able to take them off the campus.

The usual Brady talking points, which have earned him a much-deserved "F" rating from every national gun group.

Hate to nitpick here, but Virgina Tech happened April 16, 2007.

That said, that SOB authored the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, of which the AWB was part of.

[Monkeyleg]

It's ok to pick nits. It was the 2007 primary. You can even look it up.

You can tell that Biden is a died-in-the-wool anti. Only the True Believers trot out the AW ban when the weapons used were ordinary-looking firearms.

Speaking of which, I'm noticing that more news stories are mentioning the SKS when reporting on a shooting. My guess is that they're going to try to add those to the new AWB if they get a shot at it.

[K Frame]

"VT shooter did not use an "assault weapon" and he did in fact buy his guns by walking into a gun store."

And that matters to that crew.... how?

Oh, silly me, it doesn't.

[Manedwolf]

It's ok to pick nits. It was the 2007 primary. You can even look it up.

You can tell that Biden is a died-in-the-wool anti. Only the True Believers trot out the AW ban when the weapons used were ordinary-looking firearms.

Speaking of which, I'm noticing that more news stories are mentioning the SKS when reporting on a shooting. My guess is that they're going to try to add those to the new AWB if they get a shot at it.

There were already news stories a while back from LA claiming that it was the number one gang weapon of choice, a fact they pulled out of their posterior.

[RevDisk]

There were already news stories a while back from LA claiming that it was the number one gang weapon of choice, a fact they pulled out of their posterior.

Odd, the FBI thinks it's 9mm and .22 handguns, followed by ordinary 12 guages.  FBI isn't always pro-2A, but at least they have the courtsey not to lie through their teeth on their stats.

[PTK]

Here's hoping the nutroots riot in Denver!

Hey, let's hope not! Some of us have to live here, y'know. 

[Waitone]

Biden was not hired to help win the election.  He was hired to keep O'Bama from falling on his *ss should he luck up and win the election.  O'Bama knows nothing about inside baseball DC.  Biden knows just about everything, at least on his side of the isle.  Which tells me O'Bama is expecting major problems from his fellow party members.

[French G.]

Here's hoping the nutroots riot in Denver!

Hey, let's hope not! Some of us have to live here, y'know. 

Aw come on where's your sense of adventure? You'd get to live the ever present THR mutant zombie SHTF scenario. I'm thinking for these particular ones that paintballs filled with liquid bath soap backed up by a water cannon would be most effective.

[PremiumSauces]

Guys, here is my take on this choice - stupid, stupid, stupid.

To me, this proves that the Democrats at the national level and Obama just "don't get it" on guns, and why being anti-gun is a losing issue.

The REASON Biden was picked over Baye, et al, primarily, is because he's supposed to help deliver the blue collar states of Penn, Ohio, and Mich, right?  Due to Biden being a kinda populist, pro-union, kinda guy.

But yet Biden is *extremely* anti-gun-rights / anti-freedom, as we all know too well.  Biden is going to go over like a lead baloon in the huge hunting/gun states of Penn, Ohio, and Mich, when the NRA gets through with the collossally anti-gun Obama/Biden ticket.

If they lose (Obama/Biden), as I hope beyond all hope that they do, then I'm going on a massive campaign of "I told you so / How stupid can you get?" towards the Democratic party and my Democratic friends, since I like some of the things that that party stands for.  They need massive internal change at the leadership/national level on this issue.  How many times will they shoot themselves in the foot over this issue?  You'd have thunk they'd figured it out in 2000 when Al Gore could not even carry his own state of Tenn with its 11 electoral votes, due to him being anti-gun.  The Democrats remind me of Peter Griffin - they just cannot learn from history.

And of course, if these two jokers get in, then I'm all wet on my theory.  We shall see.  I know who I'm voting for....

[Perd Hapley]

You mean you know who you're voting against.  I'm right there with you.

[longeyes]

I suspect Biden is no stranger to not only insider Washington but to insider Chicago as well.  What is Delaware but one large Tony Rezko-style fiefdom?

Biden is there to watch the kid, just as Cheney was.

I think politically it was a bum move for the Dems, but they owe who they owe, and that matters more than getting Hillary on the ticket to give them a better chance to win.

[Waitone]

A though just occurred  to me.  Political parties are amazingly foresighted in their ability to look into the next election and make a really good prognostication as to which party will be victorious and in which ways.  The result is one party will field a pretty strong candidate and party B will field a throw away.  Bob Dole comes to mind against Clinton and Dukakis rings a few bells in the Reagan election.  So it appears to me they intend to husband their prime timber for a time when circumstances are more favorable.

Here's my observation.  How is it we are now in an election whereby both parties are fielding at the same time throw away candidates.  Let's go further.  What did at least one of those parties add to the confusion by fielding a throw away (and has been thrown away in the past) veep candidate?  Are we watching the disintegration of the two party system (I can only hope) or is something else afoot.  McCain's selection should be interesting to say the least.  In his case one candidate will make all kinds of sense.  The others mentioned are klinkers just like the other three candidates.

[Perd Hapley]

You think the Dem's see Obama as a throw-away?

[Gowen]

You think the Dem's see Obama as a throw-away?

I really think that obama thinks he is Flash Gordon, "savior of the universe."  He thinks he can't be beat.  He thinks he could pick the dog catcher as VP and America is going vote him in as President.  I am waiting for him to have his Great Pumpkin moment and that will be the end of him.

[RocketMan]

You think the Dem's see Obama as a throw-away?

I really think that obama thinks he is Flash Gordon, "savior of the universe."  He thinks he can't be beat.  He thinks he could pick the dog catcher as VP and America is going vote him in as President.  I am waiting for him to have his Great Pumpkin moment and that will be the end of him.

My hunch is Obama is so well coated in Teflon that he cannot lose.  It will be him and his fellow plagarist in office come Jan 20, 2009.