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When George McGovern met the clue bat
« on: September 27, 2010, 11:29:42 PM »
It seems that noted leftist George McGovern had an epiphany of sorts, when he tried to run a hotel, and had to deal with the sorts of onerous legislation that he had supported throughout his career. The hotel went bankrupt within two years.

He related this in a 1992 article that was published in both the Wall Street Journal and Nation's Restaurant News, where he also complained of lawsuits still pending from his career in hospitality, and admitted that "not every misstep is the fault of someone else. Not every such incident should be viewed as a lawsuit instead of an unfortunate accident."

Even a blind squirrel sometimes realizes that a car is headed straight for him.

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2010, 02:34:30 AM »
It is no coincidence that the most fertile grounds for growing Leftists, academia, college campuses, government, etc, are places where people are generally shielded from reality and real consequences for actions.

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 02:39:58 AM »
yea working for a living gets that outa your system fast.  i was a socialist for 2 years  from 10 -12  i got a paper route then
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 10:30:47 AM »
The perfect example is a movie called "Back to School" with Rodney Dangerfield that shows how the real world works versus the academic thoughts on how it is *supposed* to be.
The teacher is talking about getting this permit or that building inspection, and then Rodney explains about how to bribe the right people, and if you don't, you don't get those permits, or those inspections are wrong..etc etc.

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 10:41:42 AM »
I remember an anecdote about George McGovern.  He was giving a political speech somewhere in the rural midwest.  He advocated 100% taxation for all income over $100,000 per year.  He expected applause, but instead was greeted with dead silence.  The farmers knew he was advocating socialism, and they knew socialism doesn't work.

McGovern was stunned.  He told one of his aides later, "they must all think they're going to win the lottery." 

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2010, 11:54:51 AM »
I remember an anecdote about George McGovern.  He was giving a political speech somewhere in the rural midwest.  He advocated 100% taxation for all income over $100,000 per year.  He expected applause, but instead was greeted with dead silence.  The farmers knew he was advocating socialism, and they knew socialism doesn't work.

McGovern was stunned.  He told one of his aides later, "they must all think they're going to win the lottery." 

 :facepalm:

Also, some years a farmer might make $100K.  And make bupkis the next.
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2010, 12:38:14 PM »
I was thinking that also.  Aren't a lot of farmers not in corporations so all the farm income is personal income? 
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2010, 12:43:13 PM »
I remember an anecdote about George McGovern.  He was giving a political speech somewhere in the rural midwest.  He advocated 100% taxation for all income over $100,000 per year. 
Say a neurosurgeon makes $600,000 a year. (Wild guess, no idea what the prevailing wage is.) That's $50,000 a month.

Starting March 1, there would no longer be any practicing neurosurgeons until Jan 1 of the following year. Vary the dates a bit, and you'll find a LOT of other folks will be taking extended vacations.

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2010, 02:30:29 PM »
mcgovern is a tough one for me
hate his politics   seems a nice guy has handled tragedy in his life well
he couldn't pick a better biz to get schooled in. i stayed at a small family motel on assateague  guy wanted to sell it to me  i just grinned and said i'd already been in it once   not gonna get me twice.  he understood
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2010, 11:30:45 PM »
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some years a farmer might make $100K

As I recall, my anecdote dates back to the early 1970s or maybe as early as 1968 when he ran for president.  $100,000 bought a few more iPods back then than it does now.  :P

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2010, 11:45:37 PM »
As I recall, my anecdote dates back to the early 1970s or maybe as early as 1968 when he ran for president.  $100,000 bought a few more iPods back then than it does now.  :P

In the 1970s $100,000 bought 0 iPods.  There was no such thing as an iPod then. :P ;) :laugh:




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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2010, 12:07:29 AM »
Yes, I know that.  Hence the "tongue" icon I appended to the end of my comment.   :laugh:

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2010, 12:26:47 AM »
Sure, but $100,000 in 1929 could have bought a lot of TV's so you could watch FDR address the nation.

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2010, 12:39:28 AM »
I was thinking of all the iPads I could have bought back during 1789.  I could have plugged into Starbuck's wi-fi network and kept up with the news of Washington's inauguration.

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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2010, 02:49:55 AM »
When you say "make" $100,000 a year, are you talking gross or net ??

Even farmers know the difference. 


And I'd bet ol' George was talking gross.





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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2010, 12:41:25 PM »
Sure, but $100,000 in 1929 could have bought a lot of TV's so you could watch FDR address the nation.
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They ALSO didn't have TV in 1929!!!!

Or is this another joke I'm missing?  ??? :facepalm: =|
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2010, 07:47:52 PM »
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2010, 08:48:22 PM »
It is no coincidence that the most fertile grounds for growing Leftists, academia, college campuses, government, etc, are places where people are generally shielded from reality and real consequences for actions.

Not to excuse his politics, but didn't he fly a whole bunch of wartime missions in a bomber over Germany as a younger man?  Not exactly what you'd think of as shielded from reality or consequences.
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2010, 09:19:15 PM »
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This 2001 book offers another chapter in the apparently unending story of the B-24 Liberator. Like all of Stephen Ambrose' s books, it is detailed and readable, but this one is controversial (or least surprising) for two reasons. First, the book is almost entirely devoted to George McGovern and his crew. McGovern went on to become U.S Senator from South Dakota, and in 1972, a peace candidate for President. As such, he was unpopular with traditionally hawkish veterans groups. It's a fair measure of McGovern's character that he never boasted of his real, heroic combat career, which earned a Distinguished Flying Cross, in contrast to Nixon's desk-bound service. Thus the book is not really about "the men who flew the B-24s," as much as it is about setting the record straight about one man who flew B-24's.
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Re: When George McGovern met the clue bat
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2010, 09:22:42 PM »
dfc? i'd forgotten that.

i really felt for him when he lost his daughter
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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