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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2008, 12:25:21 PM »
Amazing Grace is a well known Christian hymn, perhaps the most widely recognized of such hymns. It may be the only Christian hymn the heathen TV/movie writers ever heard of. It is also common in most varieties of Christianity.

I get misty eyes listening to a good bagpipe rendition.
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2008, 02:08:58 PM »
Contemporary religious music is just as crappy as contemporary pop music, imo.
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2008, 02:18:46 PM »
Amazing Grace is a well known Christian hymn, perhaps the most widely recognized of such hymns. It may be the only Christian hymn the heathen TV/movie writers ever heard of. It is also common in most varieties of Christianity.

I get misty eyes listening to a good bagpipe rendition.

My dad has a record (yes, actual vinyl) of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards playing Amazing Grace.  Absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

I grew up listening to it, and it's amazing that I didn't wear out the grooves on it. 
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2008, 03:23:24 PM »
I've sung Amazing Grace to Gilligans Island before. Its pretty funny. IIRC it works cause they're both in 3/4 time, just different bpm and notes.

It also works with "The House of the Rising Sun".

Edit: Missed that, but it was just Fistful who said it, so it's OK. Tongue

Coincidentally, I just heard a song last night whose chorus mentioned listening to "Sweet Home Alabama", and it had an arrangement of SHA with a little extra piano, that sounded just like "Werewolves of London". Anybody know this song?

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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2008, 05:15:46 PM »
Already said that, DJJ.  Tongue

Cosine, Manedwolf, can you elaborate on the 70s folk rock thing? 

I dare you to compare a Christian pop station and a secular pop station and then try to say that. Most pop music is neither technically complex musically nor deep and meaningful lyrically. It's true Christian musicians are generally drawn from a smaller pool so some of the stuff getting airtime might be slightly worse than average, but overall they are very similar in overall quality. 

No one claimed that pop was deep, meaningful or complex.  I don't think that's what pop music is about, and I don't think that's what we're talking about.  Pop music doesn't depend on depth or musical complexity, and I think the main problem with Christian music is that it tries to be meaningful in a not-so-meaningful medium. 

Maybe it's like a bunch of people hanging out, joking around about something like, say fuel prices, and suddenly one humorless individual starts getting all serious about it.  And everyone just wishes he would shut up, so we can get back to having fun.  I can recall some fun Christian pop that worked pretty well.  Unfortunately, if it's all about fun, it's going to be more pop than Christian, so you can only take that so far. 

Not that there isn't some good Christian rock/pop/folk out there. 

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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2008, 05:26:44 PM »
Cosine, Manedwolf, can you elaborate on the 70s folk rock thing? 

Think of the stuff by Marty Haugen and the like. The St. Louis Jesuits, etc.
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2008, 05:28:04 PM »
Cosine, Manedwolf, can you elaborate on the 70s folk rock thing? 

No classical hymns, everything re-interpreted into "Kumbaya"ish folk versions utilizing a single acoustic guitar and the most grating vocalist possible. Often found in churches where the decor has also not been updated since the 70's tranformed it into an interior design error of burnt orange and post-hippie tapestries.

And yes, they still exist.

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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2008, 05:43:09 PM »
ManedWolf, are you familiar with Interior Desecrations?  Great book.   laugh

Cosine those names are really not ringing a bell with me, but thanks for trying.   smiley  In general, I know the kind of vibe you all are talking about.  I think a lot of the music we sang in my old churches was from the seventies, and we were still singing them in the early nineties.  I prefer the 1770s for church music.  Or earlier.  Ein Feste Burg, anyone?  Oh, wait, sorry Catholics.  Tongue
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2008, 05:56:28 PM »
Ein Feste Burg, anyone?  Oh, wait, sorry Catholics.  Tongue


That one is in a lot of traditional Catholic hymnals nowadays. Good, strong, awe-inspiring hymn. Nothing heretical in it either (coming from Martin Luther), as far as I know.
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2008, 06:09:01 PM »
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Coincidentally, I just heard a song last night whose chorus mentioned listening to "Sweet Home Alabama", and it had an arrangement of SHA with a little extra piano, that sounded just like "Werewolves of London". Anybody know this song?

It is called All Summer Long by Kid Rock, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwIGZLjugKA When I first heard it I first thought it was Wereolves of London because the piano parts sounds just like it.
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2008, 07:23:42 PM »
That one is in a lot of traditional Catholic hymnals nowadays. Good, strong, awe-inspiring hymn. Nothing heretical in it either (coming from Martin Luther), as far as I know.

Thanks for reassuring me that Mr. Luther was not being heretical.  I was truly quite worried.   grin
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2008, 10:51:11 PM »
The House of the Rising Sun version of Amazing Grace.  grin
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2008, 03:35:37 AM »
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Coincidentally, I just heard a song last night whose chorus mentioned listening to "Sweet Home Alabama", and it had an arrangement of SHA with a little extra piano, that sounded just like "Werewolves of London". Anybody know this song?

It is called All Summer Long by Kid Rock, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwIGZLjugKA When I first heard it I first thought it was Wereolves of London because the piano parts sounds just like it.
That's it, and now that I hear it again, it is "Werewolves of London".

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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2008, 03:48:52 AM »
That one is in a lot of traditional Catholic hymnals nowadays. Good, strong, awe-inspiring hymn. Nothing heretical in it either (coming from Martin Luther), as far as I know.

Thanks for reassuring me that Mr. Luther was not being heretical.  I was truly quite worried.   grin

Oh, I can go dig up something heretical by Martin Luther if you really want it. grin You just got lucky that with that one hymn there's nothing heretical in it. Wink
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2008, 05:10:23 AM »
"My dad has a record (yes, actual vinyl) of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards playing Amazing Grace."

If that's the one I think it is, it went to number 1 on the pop charts in Britain and Australia for several weeks.
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2008, 07:25:17 AM »
I love the bag pipes version of Amazing Grace. Very powerful stuff.
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Re: Why is it...?
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2008, 08:31:56 AM »
Oh, I can go dig up something heretical by Martin Luther if you really want it. grin  

Like that whole anti-indulgences thing.  What an infidel, right?   laugh
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