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Mystery Garden Critter
« on: June 22, 2011, 01:40:00 PM »
Something is getting into my garden.

And it likes to dig holes just deep enough, from the surface, to expose the roots of my plants.  I assume it then gnaws on the roots, but I was able to re-cover and hopefully salvage the couple of plants that were affected last night.  It also gnaws the tops of my plants.  I've had two pea plants get taken down to the soil after being about 6+ inches emerged.

I have 2-foot tall chicken wire all the way around my garden, but it has gaps that are probably big enough for field mice or similar rodents to get in.  I don't think this is birds, but they can certainly get in as well.

My dog doesn't seem to be helping at all.

Solutions?  Anyone else have this problem?

I'm thinking of augmenting the chicken wire with a finer-sized mesh, but I suspect that the critter is likely to just chew through it.


ETA:  no prints in the soil at all.  Whatever it is, it ain't my dog.  Probably isn't cats, either, since they'd have to jump over a 2 foot fence without disturbing the soil.  Gotta be tiny, and quiet.  I considered that it might be the little geckos that climb around on my cinder block property wall, digging around for bugs in the soft soil... but that doesn't explain the eating of the plants.

« Last Edit: June 22, 2011, 01:50:59 PM by AZRedhawk44 »
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2011, 02:07:18 PM »
Squirrels.

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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2011, 02:12:17 PM »
No squirrels.

Never seen a squirrel in Phoenix.  Plenty up in the Payson area, but scarce-to-none down here.
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2011, 02:16:52 PM »
Ok.  They do exactly what you describe around here.  I filled in a couple small holes in my front flowerbed just this morning.

What other small rodents do you have in your area? 

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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2011, 02:30:32 PM »
Squirrels.  
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2011, 02:40:59 PM »
Field mice.  Ground squirrels (which I guess you could call squirrels, but they're really more of a tiny prairie dog, and lack a proper squirrel's tail).

But I don't have ground squirrels in my yard, because I don't have any dens.  I guess they could be in some neighbor's yard and coming over or through the wall somehow.

I'm guessing that it's field mice.

I'll go get some spring traps tonight and see what I catch tomorrow.

Anyone have ideas on how to mouse-proof a garden?
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2011, 02:43:20 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 05:07:36 PM »
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 05:49:03 PM »
Hippies.
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2011, 05:53:10 PM »
Before we get too carried away, would all you folks please remember to include the appropriate caliber to use for your guesses.

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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2011, 07:09:27 PM »
Before we get too carried away, would all you folks please remember to include the appropriate caliber to use for your guesses.

Thank you.

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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2011, 07:26:10 PM »
Before we get too carried away, would all you folks please remember to include the appropriate caliber to use for your guesses.

Thank you.

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2011, 07:27:57 PM »
The chipmunks have been hell on my plantings, and seeds this year
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2011, 08:25:16 PM »
For most since they are afraid of guns the mere display of a small pellet gun will do. >:D

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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2011, 08:49:34 PM »
Depending on the size of the damage, could be chipmunks or jacks.  Either way, I would dust off and nuke from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2011, 12:20:54 AM »
That 22 cal loudenboomer is way too much bullet for whatever small animal you have there. Really all you need is a little 17 cal/17gr bullet.

Mated to a 50BMG of course. Hopefully you only have one or three of the things eating your plants because I suspect barrel erosion will be a bear.



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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 03:27:21 AM »
That 22 cal loudenboomer is way too much bullet for whatever small animal you have there. Really all you need is a little 17 cal/17gr bullet.

Mated to a 50BMG of course. Hopefully you only have one or three of the things eating your plants because I suspect barrel erosion will be a bear.



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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 09:25:42 AM »
I'm thinking 9.5 inch barrel with no flash suppressor should do the trick. You do want a flame-thrower, right?
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2011, 12:41:51 PM »
I'm thinking 9.5 inch barrel with no flash suppressor should do the trick. You do want a flame-thrower, right?

With that case length, I'm thinking...custom Judge.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2011, 02:05:23 PM »
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2011, 07:59:31 PM »
Hippies.


You could do like some of the local NewAgers used to do, and leave notes in the garden asking the mice not to eat your plants  :lol:
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 12:38:02 PM »
I put some mouse traps out in my garden, inside of small cardboard boxes just big enough for the trap lever to actuate.  Baited with peanut butter.

Whatever is getting in my garden is small enough to get inside the hole cut in the cardboard box (2" x 2"), but large enough that the trap doesn't kill it.  Because it went off last night around midnight ( I heard it, and so did my dog, because he went running out of the bedroom to investigate), but the trap is 2 feet away from its cardboard box now.

Looks like I need a live/container trap.  And then a bucket of water.
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Re: Mystery Garden Critter
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 12:44:29 PM »
I put some mouse traps out in my garden, inside of small cardboard boxes just big enough for the trap lever to actuate.  Baited with peanut butter.

Whatever is getting in my garden is small enough to get inside the hole cut in the cardboard box (2" x 2"), but large enough that the trap doesn't kill it.  Because it went off last night around midnight ( I heard it, and so did my dog, because he went running out of the bedroom to investigate), but the trap is 2 feet away from its cardboard box now.

Looks like I need a live/container trap.  And then a bucket of water.

Naw, just a rat trap.  (I still think it's Ninja squirrels)
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