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Everything is a Nazi
« on: April 15, 2017, 12:24:31 AM »
http://deadline.com/2017/04/roman-polanski-calls-american-court-nazis-denied-no-jail-rape-1202070338/

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“Mr. Polanski was as justified in fleeing this Court’s illegal conduct as he was to flee the Germans who invaded Poland,” starkly proclaims a new filing today by the Oscar winner’s lawyer. The blast against U.S. justice comes just over a week after a judge denied the fugitive director’s latest desire to be assured of no more jail time for the 1977 rape of a 13-year old girl if he returned to America.

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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2017, 01:12:18 AM »
When everything is nazi, nothing is nazi
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2017, 08:29:25 AM »
I think he's pretty sure that if he goes to a US prison at the age of 83, he'll stay at the age of 83.
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 12:17:22 PM »
This case has  bothered me for a long time.   How  anyone can defend Polanski (despite his obvious talent in film)  is beyond my understanding.   The court is a "NAZI" for wanting to prosecute a RAPIST?
REALLY?
It seems  all sanity has just plain disappeared.
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 01:32:48 PM »
This case has  bothered me for a long time.   How  anyone can defend Polanski (despite his obvious talent in film)  is beyond my understanding.   The court is a "NAZI" for wanting to prosecute a RAPIST?
REALLY?
It seems  all sanity has just plain disappeared.
I have never looked into it.  Is there some doubt that he actually did it or is he just a leftist liberal notable who gets forgiven for all manner of evil acts?
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 02:22:28 PM »
I have never looked into it.  Is there some doubt that he actually did it or is he just a leftist liberal notable who gets forgiven for all manner of evil acts?

He drugged and forcibly vaginally and anally raped a 13 year old girl he was having pose for pornographic photos.

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2017, 02:29:00 PM »
This case has  bothered me for a long time.   How  anyone can defend Polanski (despite his obvious talent in film)  is beyond my understanding.   The court is a "NAZI" for wanting to prosecute a PEDOPHILE RAPIST?
REALLY?
It seems  all sanity has just plain disappeared.

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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2017, 02:50:25 PM »
^^^What that fat, stinky, no talent said. :P
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2017, 10:50:28 AM »
^^^What that fat, stinky, no talent said. :P

grampster, I'm surprised at your insulting a lady like that!  Ain't you got no shivilry?

Or did "^^^" mean three posts above yours?
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2017, 11:16:03 AM »
The left's support for Polanski is why whenever a libtard calls me a racist I remind them they are a pedophile.
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2017, 01:00:52 PM »
"...leftist liberal notable..."  That should be an acronym.

Those LLNs in Hollywood ought to be ashamed of themselves. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2017, 02:02:58 PM »
"...leftist liberal notable..."  That should be an acronym.

Those LLNs in Hollywood ought to be ashamed of themselves. 

They have no shame.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2017, 09:42:38 AM »
I have never looked into it.  Is there some doubt that he actually did it or is he just a leftist liberal notable who gets forgiven for all manner of evil acts?

He confessed publicly and in his autobiography to the statutory rape. He however is claiming that he didn't drug her, just provided alcohol. Boiled down his argument was she basically didn't put up enough of a fight, that he took for 'consent'. The victim disputes that.

He took a sweetheart plea deal for reducing five felonies down to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, with "no more than 90 days" in prison. Even that slap on the wrist was apparently too much for him, so he fled the country.

So, yes, it is beyond a doubt that he committed rape. Some of the other details are disputed, but not the core. And yes, the argument is somehow his politics and artistic ability outweigh his crime and refusal to take even the lightest sentence for it.

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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2017, 09:44:54 AM »
These are the same people who are trying to get the age of consent lowered so yeah they support him.
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2017, 10:06:13 AM »
And yes, the argument is somehow his politics and artistic ability outweigh his crime and refusal to take even the lightest sentence for it.


So it's that "privilege" thing the Left is so spun up about. But it's artistic privilege, which is awesome, of course.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2017, 10:46:53 AM »
He confessed publicly and in his autobiography to the statutory rape. He however is claiming that he didn't drug her, just provided alcohol. Boiled down his argument was she basically didn't put up enough of a fight, that he took for 'consent'. The victim disputes that.

He took a sweetheart plea deal for reducing five felonies down to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, with "no more than 90 days" in prison. Even that slap on the wrist was apparently too much for him, so he fled the country.

So, yes, it is beyond a doubt that he committed rape. Some of the other details are disputed, but not the core. And yes, the argument is somehow his politics and artistic ability outweigh his crime and refusal to take even the lightest sentence for it.


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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2017, 10:47:07 AM »
I see that several years back, Mr. Polanski reached a civil settlement with his victim, and she has stated the criminal charges should be dropped.  Interesting. I wonder if that is her personal opinion, or was that a condition of the settlement.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2017, 11:00:06 AM »
Maybe someone can commute his sentence to "stay the hell out of the U.S."

Since he wants to come back so bad, that might be a just punishment.
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2017, 11:07:29 AM »
I see that several years back, Mr. Polanski reached a civil settlement with his victim, and she has stated the criminal charges should be dropped.  Interesting. I wonder if that is her personal opinion, or was that a condition of the settlement.

Could be the second.

But she also made it very clear that she did not like the lifelong negative attention as the result of being abused by someone famous. Considering that she is still slandered on a regular basis for her 'crime' of telling someone she was drugged and raped by someone famous, I can't say I blame her.

Before anyone feels too angry at Leftists for forgiving actors/directors of crimes, I personally know dozens or hundreds of people who were furious when children admitted to being raped by folks involved in football. If you think the veneration of a pedo director is sickening, you have absolutely no clue what it was like during the whole Penn State thing. Largely but not exclusively conservative folks. Well, Republicans, but you get the idea. Or when any other professional athlete commits a crime. Not that Lefties don't also rally behind athletes who commit rape, murder, etc. It's a very strangely non-partisan thing to endorse criminals and get furious at their victims. 
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2017, 11:48:49 AM »
Before anyone feels too angry at Leftists for forgiving actors/directors of crimes, I personally know dozens or hundreds of people who were furious when children admitted to being raped by folks involved in football. If you think the veneration of a pedo director is sickening, you have absolutely no clue what it was like during the whole Penn State thing. Largely but not exclusively conservative folks. Well, Republicans, but you get the idea. Or when any other professional athlete commits a crime. Not that Lefties don't also rally behind athletes who commit rape, murder, etc. It's a very strangely non-partisan thing to endorse criminals and get furious at their victims. 

No, I'll get angry at all of them. It's tribalism, not leftism (per se) that causes it.

He's part of my tribe (Leftists, Penn State, Supporters of Bill Clinton, etc...) and he's important, therefore the rules are different for him.

In every case it's about principals rather than principles.
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 12:32:37 PM »
With Polanski, you have fairly high-profile leftists like Whoopi Goldberg defending him (which I think she also did for Bill Cosby) on national television.

Did anything similar happen with conservative Penn State fans?


Not to excuse it on either side, but I'm guessing the Left is a bit worse when it comes to this.
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2017, 05:05:28 PM »
With Polanski, you have fairly high-profile leftists like Whoopi Goldberg defending him (which I think she also did for Bill Cosby) on national television.

Did anything similar happen with conservative Penn State fans?

Not to excuse it on either side, but I'm guessing the Left is a bit worse when it comes to this.

Locally? Absolutely. They were smart enough to phrase it better when quoted in the papers. "While Sandusky was a horrible no good person that isn't so important to us that we can't throw him under the bus, Penn State and the head coach in particular are. Even if they actively know and got involved in the coverup."

Verbally, quite a few conservative Penn State fans flat out said "**** the kids. They have NO right to sanction my team!" Poor phrasing on their part, but they made it very clear their priorities.

My favorite example is a small conservative town that ran out a victim's family and burned their house down after couple guys on the football team raped a girl and left her outside unconscious in below freezing weather. My own small conservative town wasn't that pro-active in protecting athletes, but fairly close. I was under the impression it was nearly uniform across small towns in America?
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2017, 05:22:07 PM »
I'm honestly not sure what to make of the above, as I've never heard of a "conservative town."
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2017, 06:03:06 PM »
I'm honestly not sure what to make of the above, as I've never heard of a "conservative town."

*shrug* Grew up in one. Have been to dozens, if not hundreds of them, over the years. It's where the majority, or seeming majority, of the population is given to a loose political and cultural affiliation that is vaguely self-identifies as "conservative" or "Republican". The two aren't the same thing, but neither side is necessarily consistent.

The opposite would be somewhere like Berkeley or San Francisco. They tend to be associated with "liberal towns".
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Re: Everything is a Nazi
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2017, 07:14:08 PM »
*shrug* Grew up in one. Have been to dozens, if not hundreds of them, over the years. It's where the majority, or seeming majority, of the population is given to a loose political and cultural affiliation that is vaguely self-identifies as "conservative" or "Republican". The two aren't the same thing, but neither side is necessarily consistent.

The opposite would be somewhere like Berkeley or San Francisco. They tend to be associated with "liberal towns".

I think the problem comes down to people thinking that they are conservative, but do not realize that it means that they should butt out of other people's business as much as they want the state to butt out of theirs.

In many ways the phenomenon by which people who think they are liberal, and yet shout down people whose opinions only slightly differ from their own, is similar.
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