Oh, no, not an AK-47 assault rifle!

[Gewehr98]

And an assault revolver?

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/police/index.php?ntid=209802

The pictures shown there last night showed a semi-auto AK clone, it didn't have Da Switch.

Friggin' libtards. 

[Firethorn]

So, what's the proper name for an AK-47 without 'da switch'?

The article at least seems fairly factual.

Not sure what printing the length of the Ruger's barrel was for, maybe length requirements?  All it did for me was make me think 'Good revolver for deer hunting'.

'Several rounds of ammunition'.  Again, not a big deal.  Sounds to me something they'd write when they find a partial box with the weapons, not even a full magazine/chamber worth.

The big deal here is that the guy's a felon, and this is at least the second time he's been caught with firearms, violating the law and his probation.

[Manedwolf]

The big deal here is that the guy's a felon, and this is at least the second time he's been caught with firearms, violating the law and his probation.

For which the sentence is far too short. If someone commits a crime with a gun, if they're PUT AWAY FOR A LONG TIME, it tends to serve as a deterrent.

As it is, the sentencing is a joke. And some of the gangstas consider the jail time a badge of honor, plus they get to learn new things, work out, and get stronger while they're in.

[Standing Wolf]

If someone commits a crime with a gun, if they're PUT AWAY FOR A LONG TIME, it tends to serve as a deterrent.

Actually, most criminals aren't smart enough to learn from their own mistakes, let alone others'. Putting them in prison for a long, long time is a good idea simply because it prevents them from committing lots of crimes against the law-abiding.

[Manedwolf]

If someone commits a crime with a gun, if they're PUT AWAY FOR A LONG TIME, it tends to serve as a deterrent.

Actually, most criminals aren't smart enough to learn from their own mistakes, let alone others'. Putting them in prison for a long, long time is a good idea simply because it prevents them from committing lots of crimes against the law-abiding.

Agreed, I meant as a deterrent to other lowlifes.

[Gewehr98]

I know the guy was a screw-up.  That wasn't my point.

I just love how they describe the firearms, ala' VPC, Boxer and Feinstein.

Lord forbid they get a look inside my gun safes. 

"Insurgency arsenal found in rural Wisconsin!  200 firearms, 20K rounds of ammunition, and 50 pounds of bulk black powder and smokeless explosives all in one residence!"

I'm going to have to talk to the NRA again.  I've willed the majority of the collection to their museum. I wonder how much of a stink in the liberal Madison area it'll cause when I take my dirt nap and they move all the specimens out of the house in broad daylight. Maybe they'll need a police escort? 

[Manedwolf]

"Insurgency arsenal found in rural Wisconsin!  200 firearms, 20K rounds of ammunition, and 50 pounds of bulk black powder and smokeless explosives all in one residence!"

Gotta say it in the Media Hype Script version...

"Insurgency arsenal found in rural Wisconsin! Over 200 assault weapons including some possible machine guns, tens of thousands of rounds of high-powered military ammunition, the kind that would pierce police bullet-proof vests, and over 50 pounds of dangerous explosives that could have been used in bomb-making!"

[MattC]

For the Cap Times, that was a really balanced article...

Gewehr98, whatever you haven't willed to the NRA, you want to send my way?  I promise to take good care of them. 

In any case, when I come visit the alma mater sometime, you want to meet up and go shooting?  I'm down in Racine now facing the real world.

[280plus]

If you will them to me instead I'll be sure to remove them all at night so's not to scare the blissninnys. It's the least I could do for you... 

Problem is you'll probably outlive my ass so THAT plan is shot to hell... 

[Werewolf]

I just love how they describe the firearms, ala' VPC, Boxer and Feinstein.

They?

Police spokesman Mike Hanson said police learned that Watson's car contained weapons, then watched the car until Watson and another person got in and began to drive off. Several officers stopped the car in the 2100 block of Muir Field Road on the southwest side shortly before midnight and found an AK-47 and a .44-caliber Ruger handgun with a 10.5-inch barrel, along with several rounds of ammunition.

They, appears to be the cops. Seems pretty clear that the reporter just repeated what the police told him.

I just love how they describe the firearms, ala' VPC, Boxer and Feinstein.

In this case at least, your ire is directed at the wrong group.

[Gewehr98]

Not necessarily.  The hardcopy edition had photos of the offending Klack and Ruger.  If you know anything about the Madison newsrags, they more often than not sensationalize such things.  Berkeley and San Francisco seem almost conservative in some respects. I can almost guarantee that the Madison police report simply stated that an AK-47 and Ruger .44 Magnum were found, and the journalists used that as an opportunity to add the "Evil Assault Weapon" adjectives needed to spice things up on an otherwise slow news day. They'd be more than happy to invent an "Assault Revolver" description, but revolvers are still more common in everyman's inventory, so they can't be demonized - yet. I know from personal experience that the Dane County Sheriff's Department doesn't use the fear-mongering terminology in their official reporting. 

Funny thing is, were it somewhere outside Madison or Milwaukee, that Klack wouldn't cause such weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I thought I'd try something different after Jim Zumbo's faux pas last year, and carry my sidefolder AK as my deer rifle.  It wasn't the only one out there in the Wisconsin woods, as I discovered with some amusement.   

[Fly320s]

G98,

Of the guns that you will give to the NRA, are any or all of them "museum pieces?"  Are they collectables, or shooters, or a combination.

Here's what I'm thinking:

If the guns go to a museum only the people who have an interest in going to that museum will see them.  And then only if the museum puts them on display.  But, if you can get the guns sold, then you can direct the money to a program that supports new shooters.  And, as a bonus, the guns you sold are owned by someone who wants them, and hopefully, wants to use them.

Is there a way to get the NRA, or anyone else, to auction them with the proceeds going to the NRA's youth program?

[wmenorr67]

Fly320s

Yes your firearms can be donated to the NRA to be sold at auction to fund various shooting programs.  It is ran by the NRA Foundation I believe.  A part of the Foundation being The Friends of the NRA, if I remember correctly.

www.nra.org

Should  be the correct website to answer any questions.

[Gewehr98]

Most of them are museum pieces, or exceptionally well-preserved specimens of their era. It doesn't mean I haven't shot them, but I'll wager the NRA museum doesn't have many of them.

Just a quick list gives:

1895 Dutch Mannlicher Cavalry Carbine in 6.5x53R

1895 Dutch Mannlicher Engineer's Carbine in 6.5x53R

1911 Schmidt-Rubin Infantry rifle in basically as-issued condition.

1942 AG-42B Ljungman in 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser

1942 Springfield M1 Garand Navy Trophy rifle w/markings

1944 Remington 1903A4 sniper complete restoration

Low-number Springfield 1903 NRA target model as used in competition

1954 Czech VZ-52 SHE in 7.62x45 Czech

1917 Enfield Lock NoIMkIII* SMLE in as-issued condition

1961 Remington 521T

1906 Remington Model 8 full restoration with Lyman #2 rear sight

1948 Remington Model 81, full restoration with Lyman Alaskan and Stith mounts

1941 Lend-Lease S&W Model 1905 Hand Ejector (pre-Victory) rebuilt as PPC/Steel Challenge revolver

1984 IMI Desert Eagle in .357 Magnum, low serial number

Stainless Wichita Silhouette Pistol in 7mm Rimmed International

1961 S&W Model 52 no-dash in .38 wadcutter

S&W Model 606 no-dash in .44 Special

1918 DWM Luger, 9mm w/VOPO markings

1912 Steyr-Hahn in 9mm Steyr

And many, many more.  They may even get my 6.5-06 Interdiction Rifle, the golf ball it centerpunched at 500 meters, and the copy of Tactical Shooter that discussed the event.  Depends on the size of my coffin, I guess.   

[BakerMikeRomeo]

Depends on the size of my coffin, I guess.   

Hmmmm... Say, what's it cost to rent a backhoe, these days?

~BakerMike

[Fly320s]

$160 per day, for a small one.     (used one last month on our landscaping/pathway/garden project)

[Fly320s]

G98,

Nice collection!!

[K Frame]

Hey Burr Butt,

I see you, too, have a 521T.

What kind of sighting arrangement did yours come with?

When Dad got his in the middle 1950s he got it with the Lyman micrometer peep sight on it. That's the gun I learned to shoot on.

Back in the 1980s I mounted a Weaver C-4 scope on it. With the right ammo it can be frighteningly accurate, but the trigger is pretty darned nasty.

[Gewehr98]

Back when Burr Butt was just a young little crab-ass (1976), his father bought him the 521T to continue his competitive skills in NRA Junior Smallbore matches.  It came with the sights as seen on it to this day:



I believe it's a Lyman rear peep and Redfield front globe.  Whether it came from the factory like that, I have no idea.  I do know that I whooped some Junior Smallbore butt with it for several years.   

My wife uses it these days to knock over 100 yard steel silhouettes.  Which reminds me, I need to build one of those remote-controlled silhouette resetting machines...

[James Odom]

Wow, Gewehr98, that's almost as pretty as your 03A4.  If I start saving now, how long do I have before the NRA auctions off your collection?   Hopefully a long time, because I'll need to save a lot!!!
RT