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Re: Leftist activists call Peres 'criminal' in France
« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2008, 03:13:59 AM »
i was a lil unfair  the other arab countries welcome palestinians  to do all their scut work.  so long as they don't plan on staying
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Re: Leftist activists call Peres 'criminal' in France
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2008, 04:50:47 PM »
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If the Palestinians keep making war against Israel, I fully support Israel making war back.  And I'm rooting for Israel.  The Jews have taken enough crap from the rest of the world.  It's time they start dishing it out one round at a time.

In other words, this is about your preference for one race of people over another, not some abstract principle that might makes right.

This isn't a world where fighting solves nothing-but there are situations where fighting makes things worse, and this is one of them, because both peoples live in the same place.

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Why does no one make a big deal about them refusing to take in their own people?  Why is all the insistence that Israel give up the meager land and property it has?  You want a peaceful solution?  Lobby for the surrounding nations to stop funding terrorism and start building homes in their own land for the Palestinian refugees. 

Did you stop to consider that the Palestinians might actually not want to be kicked out of their homes?

This is a strange recommendation.  One piece of land is not equivalent to another-I seriously doubt that you can find any people on the planet who will be happy to have you tear down their homes to build your own, as long as you offer them a home somewhere else. 

The surrounding nations, in any case, have taken in millions of Palestinians-Palestinians who don't want to be there anymore than the host nations want them.  And there's no real prospect of them ever going to their homes again.

But that's all irrelevant to the point, which is that 50 percent of the population that is currently under the control of Israel is not Israeli.  How do you propose dealing with that? 
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Re: Leftist activists call Peres 'criminal' in France
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2008, 06:14:15 AM »
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If the Palestinians keep making war against Israel, I fully support Israel making war back.  And I'm rooting for Israel.  The Jews have taken enough crap from the rest of the world.  It's time they start dishing it out one round at a time.

In other words, this is about your preference for one race of people over another, not some abstract principle that might makes right.

In my case, my preference has nothing to do with race.  It is about civilization versus Dark Age savagery. 
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Re: Leftist activists call Peres 'criminal' in France
« Reply #78 on: April 04, 2008, 07:22:09 AM »
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This isn't a world where fighting solves nothing-but there are situations where fighting makes things worse, and this is one of them, because both peoples live in the same place.
Tell that to the Palestinians.  To insist that one side do that yet not insist the other side do it also is foolishness.  Also, each side should enforce it with their own.  The Palestinians have shown an unwillingness to do this. 
I think the Palestinians are going to have to give up their hatred of Jews if there is ever going to be peace over there. 
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