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Title: Grease fitting
Post by: Nick1911 on March 10, 2017, 11:36:09 AM
I'm trying to sort out what type of grease fitting this is.  It's on an old machine, built in Sweden.  Does not look like a standard grease zerk.

Any help?

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Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 10, 2017, 11:54:18 AM
Ball type. Still made but not seen very often as they take a dedicated grease gun fitting.

edit to add... http://www.saeproducts.com/ball-type-grease-nipples.html

Brad
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: dogmush on March 10, 2017, 11:59:09 AM
http://www.saeproducts.com/push-type-adapter.html
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Nick1911 on March 10, 2017, 12:02:02 PM
Thanks.

Machinist friends seem to think it's actually button oilier, made for oil and not grease.  Same sort of tool applies, though.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 10, 2017, 12:05:06 PM
Thanks.

Machinist friends seem to think it's actually button oilier, made for oil and not grease.  Same sort of tool applies, though.

Button oilers normally have a spring loaded ball or flap.


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Brad
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: dogmush on March 10, 2017, 12:15:14 PM
What Brad said.

That's a grease fitting.  What part of what kind of machine is it on?
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Nick1911 on March 10, 2017, 12:17:01 PM
I've got ball, spring flap, and cup oilers on the other machines.  Which is why this one was confusing.

This is on the ram ways for a shaper.

Consensus seems to be that the ways should be oiled with way oil (I use vactra #2), and definitely not greased.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 10, 2017, 12:19:49 PM
What does it lube - bearing, bushing, thrust plate, glide?

Brad
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Nick1911 on March 10, 2017, 12:23:29 PM
What does it lube - bearing, bushing, thrust plate, glide?

Brad

Ways.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: dogmush on March 10, 2017, 12:26:31 PM
I've got ball, spring flap, and cup oilers on the other machines.  Which is why this one was confusing.

This is on the ram ways for a shaper.

Consensus seems to be that the ways should be oiled with way oil (I use vactra #2), and definitely not greased.

Indeed, the rams should be oiled.  But that is definitely a grease fitting. Strange.  I wonder if it got replaced along the way somewhere?  Or if your ways have grease channels in them?

I have the fitting to pump grease into that, but all my oiler tips would be too large.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: dogmush on March 10, 2017, 12:32:46 PM
Huh.

They make oil guns for those.  Never seen one of those before.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#1879k48/=16p25xs

https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/4133125?term=oil+gun

I guess it is an oil fitting.  learn something new every day.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: KD5NRH on March 10, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
What does it lube - bearing, bushing, thrust plate, glide?

Exhaust manifold.

(You'd be amazed how many people just put grease in any zerk they see, even if it's on the muffler.)
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: K Frame on March 10, 2017, 12:53:29 PM
Swedish shaper?

Preema?

If so, nice. Quality piece of kit. And no, the ram ways should NEVER be greased...

My best guess? It was oiled once in the morning at start up, and, depending on use, again after lunch...
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Nick1911 on March 10, 2017, 02:50:38 PM
Yup Mike, it's a Prema Type 02.  In pretty good condition.  Looks rigid for its size.

The McMaster links look like what I need.  Thanks for scouting that, dogmush.  =)
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 10, 2017, 05:34:35 PM
Now post a pic of the whole dang machine you deplorable tease.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Nick1911 on March 10, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
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Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Jim147 on March 10, 2017, 08:50:30 PM
Looks like you found a use for some of those big lathe bits.

You might try a piece of vacuum hose on the nozzle of an oil can to try to get oil to the ways.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Andiron on March 10, 2017, 08:52:40 PM
Now post a pic of the whole dang machine you deplorable tease.



Don't google search  Prema Type 02,  you just get a bunch of Bollywood and gibberish,  wish a very few actual machine pics.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: Nick1911 on March 10, 2017, 09:22:21 PM
Looks like you found a use for some of those big lathe bits.

You might try a piece of vacuum hose on the nozzle of an oil can to try to get oil to the ways.

Indeed.  Though I've been making use of them on the 13x40 I stumbled across about a year and a half ago.

I went ahead and made a high pressure oiler based on a grease gun.  Loosely following these directions:  http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/oilgun/gunconvert.html

It works very well, and only cost about ten bucks.
Title: Re: Grease fitting
Post by: K Frame on March 11, 2017, 07:57:27 AM
Nice conversion.

I wonder if this is the type of oiler intended for use with those zerks. Wouldn't see why, though...

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