Author Topic: An Interesting Interview on the F-35  (Read 4073 times)

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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2014, 04:24:10 PM »
Stealth tends to be optically stealthy as well.  clear long distance returns I suspect would be problematic.

Some very fancy sonic or thermal scanner might work.  I know that the F-117 and B-2 took measures to cool their exhausts, but cool enough an AIM7 won't lock on doesn't necessarily mean undetectable.

AIM-7 is a semi-active radar homing missile.
I assume you mean AIM-9

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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2014, 04:53:34 PM »
Yeah........ I should have just typed Sidewinder. 

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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2014, 05:14:53 PM »
Yeah........ I should have just typed Sidewinder. 

 A former coworker of mine would be disappointed, he designed the first seeker for the original AIM-9 :)

They are now, but if you're making a stealth-seeking guidance package, you'd want to think outside the box a bit.

Physics gets in the way...tough to get reasonable gain, or any substantial directivity when the wavelength is 50x the diameter of the missile. 

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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2014, 05:17:58 PM »
A former coworker of mine would be disappointed, he designed the first seeker for the original AIM-9 :)

Physics gets in the way...tough to get reasonable gain, or any substantial directivity when the wavelength is 50x the diameter of the missile. 

I think if you just put a long string on the enemy jet, and the missile chasing it reeled itself in, that would work pretty well.
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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2014, 05:19:25 PM »
I think if you just put a long string on the enemy jet, and the missile chasing it reeled itself in, that would work pretty well.

So like the opposite of an ALE-50?

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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2014, 05:29:04 PM »
So like the opposite of an ALE-50?

Yes, Exactly! We just send in the speshul forcees to the enemy airstrip before the combat starts to attach the strings and missiles to their planes before they take off.
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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2014, 07:48:06 PM »
Well, if we are going back to WW2 tech for radar to find these things, we might as well go back a ways for air to air technology and bring back the AIR-2 Genie or AIM-26 Falcon. After all, close would be close enough.  ;)

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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2014, 10:17:32 PM »
Well, if we are going back to WW2 tech for radar to find these things, we might as well go back a ways for air to air technology and bring back the AIR-2 Genie or AIM-26 Falcon. After all, close would be close enough.  ;)

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Never gonna happen, if we've given up using nukes on BMD interceptors (where it would actually work, and GE cheap), we aren't going to shoot planes with them :(

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Re: An Interesting Interview on the F-35
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2014, 11:35:23 PM »
Well, if we are going back to WW2 tech for radar to find these things . . .

Let's forget radar altogether and go back to WW1 tech!



Though I'm not sure how you'd get a missile to use that tech for seeking . . .