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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Brad Johnson on May 21, 2020, 01:55:13 PM
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More and more churches essentially telling their respective state Governors to stick lockdowns where the sun don't shine.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/baltimore-pastor-rips-up-cease-and-desist-letter-mid-sermon-were-gonna-do-it-gods-way
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-new-jersey-gov-reopen-church-service-sunday
Gut is telling me that churches will end up being the figurehead for constitutional (meaning legal) scrutiny of lockdown orders. A banding together of the country's religious populations will make the perceived influence and outcry intensity of the NRA or AARP look look downright inconsequential, comparatively speaking.
Brad
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You're telling me the Bible lobby is going to buy Congress from the NRA?
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You're telling me the Bible lobby is going to buy Congress from the NRA?
Hey, you make a lot of money off the best selling book of all time.
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Hey, you make a lot of money off the best selling book of all time.
Low overhead - the KJV's copyright ran out a long time ago.
(Unless you're in the UK. Sorry.)
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Low overhead - the KJV's copyright ran out a long time ago.
(Unless you're in the UK. Sorry.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJS51d1Fzg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJS51d1Fzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0hb0gc2eQ
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Someone allegedly burned down a church in Mississippi, and left a message calling them "hypokrites." I hope the arsonists practiced social distancing.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/498994-arson-suspected-in-destruction-of-mississippi-church-that-was-suing-over
If you're going to leave my church a nasty note, at least check your spelling.
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Someone allegedly burned down a church in Mississippi, and left a message calling them "hypokrites." I hope the arsonists practiced social distancing.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/498994-arson-suspected-in-destruction-of-mississippi-church-that-was-suing-over
If you're going to leave my church a nasty note, at least check your spelling.
Oh, no. The vandals know their Greek. ὑποκριτής
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Oh, no. The vandals know their Greek. ὑποκριτής
Very good observation. Bravo! (that kinda suggests the pastor, right?)
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I think we have been off church lockdown for close to 3 weeks, most churches around me are self refusing to open. Of course they had already stepped into the 21 century a few years before Covid-19 and were already live streaming Sunday service or at least making DVD recordings to be delivered later that day. We got blizzards and a lot of older people, made sense for them to do this to keep those that can't make it to service to be involved. Even the local TV stations carry Lutheran and Catholic masses on the . (dot) channels on Sunday AM. That was odd for me since I haven't seen a televised Sunday service on over the air TV since I was a kid. We don't have a lot Pentecostal churches here, but we got more Reformed churches than you can shake stick at.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/im-glad-were-closing-churches-for-public-safety-says-woman-in-line-at-walmart
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/thousands-of-churches-stand-up-to-democratic-governors-lockdown-orders-we-are-opening-period
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I have to say, I completely did not expect the Chinese Virus to finally pull off the thin mask and fully expose the hatred the left has for churches.
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I have to say, I completely did not expect the Chinese Virus to finally pull off the thin mask and fully expose the hatred the left has for churches.
I wasn't aware they were ever wearing a mask
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/thousands-of-churches-stand-up-to-democratic-governors-lockdown-orders-we-are-opening-period
I'm glad I took a year off from our church's leadership. We have been doing online services, and the pastor created a second Facebook page for members only (and regular attenders who act like members.) I would be very tempted to hold services this weekend out of solidarity with the MN Catholics and LCMSs as much as anything else. OTOH, much of our congregation is >80 years old and some of them don't have a lot of sense.
I think we're planning to open the doors again in 2 weeks.
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Bully for these churches. "We must obey God, rather than men." Thank God there are some Americans left.
Just speaking for my own church's experience, I don't feel that our rights were violated. I can't speak for everybody, but I think we wanted to take precautions, and we were willing to limit our crowd size for a while. We were already live-streaming the services, and those of us who were determined to come just kept showing up. We didn't really chafe under that state of things until Easter, and that's when we got our radio transmitter, and started doing drive-in services.
Also, we don't have communion or baptisms very often (though I'd change that, if I could), so it's easier to hold services virtually. There are plenty of churches that regard communion and baptism as central to their regular services. And though we can put a man on the moon, we can't yet virtually commune or baptize him there.
We're having regular services again, starting this weekend.
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More and more churches essentially telling their respective state Governors to stick lockdowns where the sun don't shine.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/baltimore-pastor-rips-up-cease-and-desist-letter-mid-sermon-were-gonna-do-it-gods-way
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-new-jersey-gov-reopen-church-service-sunday
Gut is telling me that churches will end up being the figurehead for constitutional (meaning legal) scrutiny of lockdown orders. A banding together of the country's religious populations will make the perceived influence and outcry intensity of the NRA or AARP look look downright inconsequential, comparatively speaking.
Brad
Maybe yes, maybe no.
What I'm hearing is that there are churches actually taking the gov't money for non-profits. Seems unwise.
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And though we can put a man on the moon, we can't yet virtually commune or baptize him there.
Buzz Aldrin took communion on the moon.
Just some random trivia for your there.
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Trump just declared churches as essential.
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Trump just declared churches as essential.
He just guaranteed a lot of people to show up in November.
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Buzz Aldrin took communion on the moon.
Just some random trivia for your there.
That's fascinating. Got a link for full details of how that worked?
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He just guaranteed a lot of people to show up in November.
=D
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That's fascinating. Got a link for full details of how that worked?
https://www.history.com/news/buzz-aldrin-communion-apollo-11-nasa
I have a problem with the "and NASA kept it a secret" considering I read it in the 1970 edition of "First On the Moon".
They didn't publicize it like earlier events, but it wasn't exactly secret either. (The article goes into it, but it has a clickbait headline.)
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Thank you, mak.
I was wondering if it was Catholic or not, seeing it was Presbyterian makes more sense, though the article does mention three astronauts later taking communion on Endeavor. I was wondering how sacrament would be stored on the shuttle or administered in that context and evidently it was administered by a lay Catholic eucharistic minister who just happened to also be an astronaut. Evolutions of dogma are fascinating to me, and I wonder at religion's capacity to exist as humans push past Earth and how it will change.
I expect that exceptions to dogma will be provided for faith members that push human frontiers like this. When SpaceX sends people on the possible 1-way voyage to Mars in the next 10-ish years to hopefully build a fuel plant to enable return, how many might be Catholic or Muslim? How will they cope with the lack of clergy or the need to pray to Mecca? Can confession and absolution be done over email or the DSN? Last rites?
It's thread veer, I admit. But I find it interesting.
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Buzz Aldrin took communion on the moon.
Just some random trivia for your there.
Funny thing is, I actually read/heard about that a couple of times in the last several months. Now I feel even dumber than if I'd never heard about it.
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About 100 local restaurants are planning to open tomorrow afternoon in defiance of the lockdown orders. A lot of them are open already but only outside seating allowed, which is not enough capacity to pay the bills. They are going to open the dining rooms. I just found out about it today. I've made reservations for happy hour at one and asked to be seated inside.
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About 100 local restaurants are planning to open tomorrow afternoon in defiance of the lockdown orders. A lot of them are open already but only outside seating allowed, which is not enough capacity to pay the bills. They are going to open the dining rooms. I just found out about it today. I've made reservations for happy hour at one and asked to be seated inside.
Where?
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Where?
Rochester, MN
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Cool. Just make sure the restaurant says something about black lives, and the Covid should pass over. (Or do you have to put the blood of dead police officers on the door post and on the lintel? I forget.)
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Racetracks in Pennsylvania are having events, the first one they had waivers for everyone, did social distance stuff, still got threatened by the county health officials. Now the tracks that still follow "recommendations" from the governor and don't race are getting dragged on social media hard. One can't win, they are owned by the county fair board. With respect to this thread in central Pennsylvania there is church, but only if there is not a sprint car race at the same time.
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Cool. Just make sure the restaurant says something about black lives, and the Covid should pass over. (Or do you have to put the blood of dead police officers on the door post and on the lintel? I forget.)
We went to the restaurant at 16:00, and they didn't have our reservation, but they had plenty of seating so that didn't matter -- all outside. They had reached a compromise with the governor and will be opening up for real on Wednesday (not sure what the date was before last Friday) and they didn't want to screw that up. They also didn't have happy hour pricing because covid ($1 off tap beers, $2 off appetizers) It was still a nice outing with Wife, I guess ;) but expensive for what it was. ($40 plus a tip for 1 beer, 1 calamari appetizer, and a large salad)
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Do you mean,
$40 plus a tip for 2 beers, 2 calamari appetizers, and two large salads?
In other words 1 item each for you and your wife?
That doesn't sound bad. Unless you and your wife went "dutch treat" or the beers were some $pecialty brew.
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Do you mean,
$40 plus a tip for 2 beers, 2 calamari appetizers, and two large salads?
In other words 1 item each for you and your wife?
That doesn't sound bad. Unless you and your wife went "dutch treat" or the beers were some $pecialty brew.
No. I had a beer and calamari. She had water and a fancy salad with sliced chicken in it. The beer was $6, the calamari was $14, and the salad was $15. I don't know how that totals $40 and change; the tax rate isn't *that* high here, but the total also isn't enough that they sneaked in an 18% gratuity on me. It was only off by about $3 so I didn't make a scene but will know to be careful next time I go there.
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Speaking of churches, our Sunday school bus has been idle for a couple of months now. Somebody stole the catalytic converter. Musta figured we weren't using it, so we didn't need it.
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Speaking of churches, our Sunday school bus has been idle for a couple of months now. Somebody stole the catalytic converter. Musta figured we weren't using it, so we didn't need it.
Are you gonna replace it, or put in a straight pipe and claim a religious exemption if you get caught? 8)
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Speaking of churches, our Sunday school bus has been idle for a couple of months now. Somebody stole the catalytic converter. Musta figured we weren't using it, so we didn't need it.
Happened to our church a while back. Annoying and expensive, for sure.
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Are you gonna replace it, or put in a straight pipe and claim a religious exemption if you get caught? 8)
It would encourage social distancing...
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No. I had a beer and calamari. She had water and a fancy salad with sliced chicken in it. The beer was $6, the calamari was $14, and the salad was $15. I don't know how that totals $40 and change; the tax rate isn't *that* high here, but the total also isn't enough that they sneaked in an 18% gratuity on me. It was only off by about $3 so I didn't make a scene but will know to be careful next time I go there.
Yeah, that sounds pretty stiff.
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Nope, racetracks, not churches.
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/north-carolina-car-race-draws-thousands-after-dubbing-itself-protest/I5YTLFXIYFCXJMKLOFLUECMAUM/
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Nope, racetracks, not churches.
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/north-carolina-car-race-draws-thousands-after-dubbing-itself-protest/I5YTLFXIYFCXJMKLOFLUECMAUM/
Yes, been watching my many racing feeds. Raise hell, praise Dale!
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And of course Ace speedway is under assault by the state lawyers. No word if Gov. Cooper will be suing BLM protesters too.
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After other states were roundly trounced by their citizens for cracking down on church services, California ups the ante.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-singing-ban-church-coronavirus-restriction
Banning singing in church? Seriously?
On a related note, NM has also re-instituted their 14-day quarantine for travelers. The criteria is supposedly entering the state and staying a night. It's depressing how many people are lauding the move as "responsible leadership" while conveniently dismissing the darker elements involved. History has indeed begun to repeat itself, and not one of the better parts, I'm afraid. The only solace is that it's waking up some lib-types to their utopic leadership's ulterior motives. Unfortunately, it's also playing right into the hands of others who see it as the path to Ultimate Societal Enlightenment.
Brad
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After other states were roundly trounced by their citizens for cracking down on church services, California ups the ante.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-singing-ban-church-coronavirus-restriction
Banning singing in church? Seriously?
On a related note, NM has also re-instituted their 14-day quarantine for travelers. The criteria is supposedly entering the state and staying a night. It's depressing how many people are lauding the move as "responsible leadership" while conveniently dismissing the darker elements involved. History has indeed begun to repeat itself, and not one of the better parts, I'm afraid. The only solace is that it's waking up some lib-types to their utopic leadership's ulterior motives. Unfortunately, it's also playing right into the hands of others who see it as the path to Ultimate Societal Enlightenment.
Brad
Let those refuse to sing,
Who never knew our God;
But children of the heav’nly King
May speak their joys abroad.
https://library.timelesstruths.org/music/Were_Marching_to_Zion/
It may be time for the churches of California to go caroling in front of the Governor's residence.
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So John MacArthur, who's kind of a big deal in American Evangelical circles, has gone from "per the Scriptures, we must obey these temporary restrictions, as all law is ordained by the will of God," to "OK, now you're just messing with God's people, Newsom, so we're opening right back up."
https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/25/john-macarthurs-church-defies-california-orders-to-close-doors/
Good.
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So John MacArthur, who's kind of a big deal in American Evangelical circles, has gone from "per the Scriptures, we must obey these temporary restrictions, as all law is ordained by the will of God," to "OK, now you're just messing with God's people, Newsom, so we're opening right back up."
https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/25/john-macarthurs-church-defies-california-orders-to-close-doors/
Good.
Word this morning was that CA was threatening to turn off their power. Have not heard how that went.
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So John MacArthur, who's kind of a big deal in American Evangelical circles, has gone from "per the Scriptures, we must obey these temporary restrictions, as all law is ordained by the will of God," to "OK, now you're just messing with God's people, Newsom, so we're opening right back up."
https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/25/john-macarthurs-church-defies-california-orders-to-close-doors/
Good.
I hope this is just the beginning.
Adults can assess their own risk.
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Word this morning was that CA was threatening to turn off their power. Have not heard how that went.
I'm not seeing anything further on this, so no news is good news? 'Course, the Commies could always do something tomorrow. Or just let Antifa go after them. ;/
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I'm not seeing anything further on this, so no news is good news? 'Course, the Commies could always do something tomorrow. Or just let Antifa go after them. ;/
Have not heard.
Turns out, there's some prior interaction between Johnny Mac and that Newsome guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKV8ad4YPoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKV8ad4YPoo)
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Have not heard.
Turns out, there's some prior interaction between Johnny Mac and that Newsome guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKV8ad4YPoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKV8ad4YPoo)
Looking at the smirk on Newsome's face in that video makes me want just walk up and punch him in the moth to wipe that supercilious smile off his face.
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After other states were roundly trounced by their citizens for cracking down on church services, California ups the ante.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-singing-ban-church-coronavirus-restriction
Banning singing in church? Seriously?
(originally posted in another thread)
https://babylonbee.com/news/governor-newsom-enraged-after-hearing-churches-singing-down-in-whoville
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Most churches have abandoned sound doctrine and are pretty feminized, just too nice and unoffensive.
Looking for leadership from most of them in the USA is a fools errand, unless you want to be a leftist.
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Most churches have abandoned sound doctrine and are pretty feminized, just too nice and unoffensive.
Looking for leadership from most of them in the USA is a fools errand, unless you want to be a leftist.
Um, who's expecting anything from those churches, other than BLM signs and rainbow banners? ???
I don't think anyone's expecting this to come from the kind of "churches" you're talking about.
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Um, who's expecting anything from those churches, other than BLM signs and rainbow banners? ???
I don't think anyone's expecting this to come from the kind of "churches" you're talking about.
Large swaths of the Evangelical world are trending that direction, it's not just the old dead mainline denominations.
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Large swaths of the Evangelical world are trending that direction, it's not just the old dead mainline denominations.
Since evangelicalism picks up on trends when they're tailing off elsewhere, that's maybe a good thing.
(Kidding. )
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Large swaths of the Evangelical world are trending that direction, it's not just the old dead mainline denominations.
Denomination (or not) is irrelevant to the point at hand. Let's make this really simple. We're talking about the possibility that churches will buck the prevailing trend, and push back on lock-down. For what it's worth, I'm not so sure churches are doing that any more than gyms and bars and all those people flocking to the beaches and parks. But that was the OP's contention. Do you really think the OP was talking about the rainbow-colored churches that are eagerly following along with whatever elite opinion tells them is right? Do you think he was expecting that kind of counter-cultural leadership from churches like that? Those aren't the churches he's talking about.
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Laodicean churches leading the way to any place other than hell is a pipe dream.
They are content to live stream social justice sermons with a sprinkling of "you go girlz" and a side dish of Caucasian self loathing.
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Laodicean churches leading the way to any place other than hell is a pipe dream.
They are content to live stream social justice sermons with a sprinkling of "you go girlz" and a side dish of Caucasian self loathing.
We've already agreed on that point.
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We are months into this, guys. Ron has it completely backwards. The “church“ that has indisputably done the most to lead in the lockdown revolt (darn near revolution) has in fact been the Church of the SJW, not some pure-of-doctrine, uber-faithful Christian sect.
Even if a church were to be approved by Ron as sufficiently righteous (and I’m guessing such a church would have a hard time existing outside his own skull) it has demonstrably done less than SJW rioters when it comes down to opposing the lockdowns.
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We are months into this, guys. Ron has it completely backwards. The “church“ that has indisputably done the most to lead in the lockdown revolt (darn near revolution) has in fact been the Church of the SJW, not some pure-of-doctrine, uber-faithful Christian sect.
Even if a church were to be approved by Ron as sufficiently righteous (and I’m guessing such a church would have a hard time existing outside his own skull) it has demonstrably done less than SJW rioters when it comes down to opposing the lockdowns.
I'm just not seeing any difference in the response of Churches as compared to any other institution in America.
After decades of not leading anyone anywhere it is not realistic to look to those churches for leadership now. Churches in the USA always seem to follow whatever the popular trend is and put a "Christian" spin on it.
I'm not looking for a pure or sufficiently righteous church if such an institution even exists. My fellowship is with any follower of Jesus regardless of their affiliation.
Churches as an institution, in America, is a salt that has lost its savor a long time ago. Do you disagree?
The Church of SJW aren't leading the revolt against lockdowns.
They are exempt from the lockdowns that everyone else must obey.
They are taking victory laps.
You just sit and home and watch your services livestream, telling you to be a nice person and not to judge anyone, while the Church of SJW dominate the abandoned field and finish taking control of the country.
I don't consider what I'm saying self righteousness or being judgmental.
I consider it paying attention and not kidding myself.
The local church has a more important function than leading social movements anyway.
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I'm just not seeing any difference in the response of Churches as compared to any other institution in America.
Okay, what exactly would you want a non-lukewarm church to do?
Churches as an institution, in America, is a salt that has lost its savor a long time ago. Do you disagree?
I don't think "Churches as an institution" has ever existed in the United States in any unified manner, and I'm not prepared to condemn all churches in that way. Are you?
The Church of SJW aren't leading the revolt against lockdowns.
They are exempt from the lockdowns that everyone else must obey.
That is not wrong, but by the same token the blatant lack of standards for the rioters (or politician funerals, for that matter) gives lie to the claims that the lockdowns are actually important to the people who issue them. That undermines the moral authority of such regulations in a way that simple disobedience by people who oppose them could never do.
You just sit and home and watch your services livestream, telling you to be a nice person and not to judge anyone, while the Church of SJW dominate the abandoned field and finish taking control of the country.
I don't consider what I'm saying self righteousness or being judgmental.
... really?
Ron, could you please - in specific and clear words - lay out the correct way for a church, or individual to behave to live up to your expectations? I'm asking in good faith and hoping to find some common ground: What should we do? Churches, individuals, political parties, whatever - what specific course would elicit the nod of approval from Ron? For that matter, what are you, your church, or your like minded followers of Jesus doing?
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FWIW, Ron, I've been physically attending church this whole time, and the content of the sermons is not what you're describing.
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Okay, what exactly would you want a non-lukewarm church to do?
Well, is a revival too much to ask for?
I don't think "Churches as an institution" has ever existed in the United States in any unified manner, and I'm not prepared to condemn all churches in that way. Are you? No, I don't doubt there are congregations who are still salty. The influence of Christianity is and has been waning for a long time and in general. "Christians" have been accommodating the left for decades now in the USA. The use of the word institution didn't mean they are a single organization, all of one mind and purpose. It was a catch all phrase for those that call their clubs churches.
That is not wrong, but by the same token the blatant lack of standards for the rioters (or politician funerals, for that matter) gives lie to the claims that the lockdowns are actually important to the people who issue them. That undermines the moral authority of such regulations in a way that simple disobedience by people who oppose them could never do.
It tells us who is really in charge.
... really?
Ron, could you please - in specific and clear words - lay out the correct way for a church, or individual to behave to live up to your expectations? I'm asking in good faith and hoping to find some common ground: What should we do? Churches, individuals, political parties, whatever - what specific course would elicit the nod of approval from Ron? For that matter, what are you, your church, or your like minded followers of Jesus doing?
I alluded to this in a post above. I've come to the point where I don't think engaging in the culture war through politics is the role of churches. As important as politics feels it's really a distraction from what is really important. The role of the church is to make better Christians. Disciples of Jesus who love each other, love God and follow Gods commandments. If there is an influence on society it is a secondary affect (effect?) of Christians loving and following Gods word. It's a bottom up, organically influencing and changing of minds and hopefully spiritual transformation. Not a top down, seizing control and imposing order on unbelievers. I'm sure there are still a minority of churches in every state operating this way. Fewer and fewer teach separation from the world and actual discipleship though.
Don't mind me, Online I'm just a grouchy Gus these days. Like a pressure relief valve. Aren't you guys lucky? :lol:
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No, I don't doubt there are congregations who are still salty. The influence of Christianity is and has been waning for a long time and in general. "Christians" have been accommodating the left for decades now in the USA.
I agree with both of those points. The social influence of Christianity has been steadily decreasing and there are a lot of people who claim the title of Christian but do not even attempt to live it.
The use of the word institution didn't mean they are a single organization, all of one mind and purpose. It was a catch all phrase for those that call their clubs churches.
If you intended "Churches as an institution" as a broad catch-all that includes both the good and the bad, and you use a Biblical allusion with the direct implication that the whole group is valueless and should be discarded then I do not agree. Nor is it at all historically unusual that there's a lot of chaff mixed up with the wheat.
I alluded to this in a post above. I've come to the point where I don't think engaging in the culture war through politics is the role of churches. As important as politics feels it's really a distraction from what is really important. The role of the church is to make better Christians. Disciples of Jesus who love each other, love God and follow Gods commandments. If there is an influence on society it is a secondary affect (effect?) of Christians loving and following Gods word. It's a bottom up, organically influencing and changing of minds and hopefully spiritual transformation. Not a top down, seizing control and imposing order on unbelievers. I'm sure there are still churches in every state operating this way.
I would say that this absolutely qualifies as common ground. =)
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FWIW, Ron, I've been physically attending church this whole time, and the content of the sermons is not what you're describing.
may I inquire as to what Church do you belong to?
I seem unwelcome at most Churches, and I have Sundays off again - I plan on checking out A.O.G
and the Calvinist as well as the local Nazarene Church.
the last Church I was a part of was a small offshoot of C.O.C ( I think ) - but if I'm not wanted I stop going
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I do service for all the churches around me. I'm an atheist but I do service for all of them and am welcomed into any of them.
Some churches don't like you if you are not a regular membe. I.e. My wife's church wouldn't marry us because she had no been a member for a few years.
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I do service for all the churches around me. I'm an atheist but I do service for all of them and am welcomed into any of them.
Some churches don't like you if you are not a regular membe. I.e. My wife's church wouldn't marry us because she had no been a member for a few years.
There may be another reason for the marriage thing. Our church used to do weddings for non-members, but it led to people doing things or wearing things in the house of God that we (or at least some of us) were pretty convinced God would not approve of. Sometimes it was music, or language people were using, or revealing clothing (oh no! shoulders!) (or probably some other things I have forgotten, or just never heard about). So we just decided we'd better limit wedding ceremonies to church members. If people think of their building as being dedicated to God, it makes things a little different.
Plus, it's one way for churches to protect themselves from being forced to bake cakes.
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[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
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may I inquire as to what Church do you belong to?
I seem unwelcome at most Churches, and I have Sundays off again - I plan on checking out A.O.G
and the Calvinist as well as the local Nazarene Church.
the last Church I was a part of was a small offshoot of C.O.C ( I think ) - but if I'm not wanted I stop going
I heard there were these things called Cowboy Churches. Do you look like a cowboy? ;)
They are a much more casual experience from what I've read.
Currently I don't even own any "Sunday Going to meet'n clothes".
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I heard there were these things called Cowboy Churches. Do you look like a cowboy? ;)
They are a much more casual experience from what I've read.
Currently I don't even own any "Sunday Going to meet'n clothes".
I used to look like a cowboy, however its been awhile and I was really more of a ranch hand - I had the hat and six shooter, but I didn't know how to ride a horse and didn't own any cattle
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I used to look like a cowboy, however its been awhile and I was really more of a ranch hand - I had the hat and six shooter, but I didn't know how to ride a horse and didn't own any cattle
So, literally "all hat and no cattle"?
=D
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So, literally "all hat and no cattle"?
=D
heh, yes, quite literally LOL
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-church-holds-indoor-services-amid-pandemic-defying-temporary-restraining-order-2020-08-09/
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Nevada: Casinos are open at 50% capacity. Churches are limited to 50 people.
Solution: https://www.westernjournal.com/evangelicals-trump-defy-nv-church-restrictions-holding-service-casino/
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As for race tracks, all the North Carolina ones got letters last week. Not banning races, but no more than 25 people in the stands. Which bans races. Roy Cooper could out idiot Ralph "Coonman" Northam any day.