Author Topic: Fort Hood, TX: Shooting (Read 55791 times)

AZRedhawk44 · « **on:** November 05, 2009, 03:32:46 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html

7 dead, 12 wounded. 1 suspect in custody. No other details available.

Who in their right mind (because all mass shooters are in their right mind... but I digress) attacks an Army base?

makattak · « **Reply #1 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:36:15 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on November 05, 2009, 03:32:46 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html

7 dead, 12 wounded. 1 suspect in custody. No other details available.

Who in their right mind (because all mass shooters are in their right mind... but I digress) attacks an Army base?

Enemies of our country.

41magsnub · « **Reply #2 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:36:51 PM »

At least when I was in, that would be a very safe place to do a shooting. Nobody is armed, you might see folks with guns but at worst they will have blanks.

red headed stranger · « **Reply #3 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:37:41 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on November 05, 2009, 03:32:46 PM

Who in their right mind (because all mass shooters are in their right mind... but I digress) attacks an Army base?

Once you get past the gate, most bases/posts are remarkably gun-free zones.

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:40:28 PM »

Suppose this is a looney-lefty conspiracy to draw attention away from the "Remember, Remember the 5th of November" rally in DC today?
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PS: Can we extend the functionality of the SMF software to actually do something with the

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Nick1911 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:47:06 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on November 05, 2009, 03:40:28 PM

PS: Can we extend the functionality of the SMF software to actually do something with the tag?

Someone needs to create a tinfoil smiley first.

Balog · « **Reply #6 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:01:14 PM »

Quote from: Nick1911 on November 05, 2009, 03:47:06 PM

Someone needs to create a tinfoil smiley first.

http://www.emotty.com/free-emoticon-directory/tag/aliens

Balog · « **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:03:59 PM »

Also, ditto what everyone said about bases being mostly unarmed. Aside from MP's and maybe armourers on duty, nobody generally has weapons on them, let alone ammo.

jackdanson · « **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:09:44 PM »

Any news on who they are yet? I really hope they aren't right wing nuts using the 5th thing. I doubt thtat is the case, but....

Prayers for the families. Hope the ones that are loose get what is coming.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:12:57 PM »

Quote from: red headed stranger on November 05, 2009, 03:37:41 PM

Once you get past the gate, most bases/posts are remarkably gun-free zones.

What he said.

Don't forget, there was those guys in New Jersey that got nabbed planning an attack on Dix.
If we were to start an APS pool, right here, right now, I'd put $20 on home grown terror cell.

makattak · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:13:23 PM »

Quote from: jackdanson on November 05, 2009, 04:09:44 PM

Any news on who they are yet? I really hope they aren't right wing nuts using the 5th thing. I doubt thtat is the case, but....

Prayers for the families. Hope the ones that are loose get what is coming.

If I may speculate: It won't be right wing nuts.

Right wing nuts don't go after the US Army. They go after government agencies (FBI, ATF, etc...)

I'm with Jamis- it's Muslim militants that did this.

charby · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:17:31 PM »

Quote from: JamisJockey on November 05, 2009, 04:12:57 PM

What he said.

Don't forget, there was those guys in New Jersey that got nabbed planning an attack on Dix.
If we were to start an APS pool, right here, right now, I'd put $20 on home grown terror cell.

I'm hoping it is, I just don't want it to be a couple GI's that flipped.

Balog · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:18:10 PM »

Quote from: charby on November 05, 2009, 04:17:31 PM

I'm hoping it is, I just don't want it to be a couple GI's that flipped.

This. Sadly, I think that's a fairly likely scenario.

Marnoot · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:23:02 PM »

On one liberal site I occasionally lurk to see what the "other side" is thinking, they're crowing about how "see? the wing-nuts said if more people were armed mass-shootings wouldn't happen, But it happened at an army base where everyone has guns!", despite the fact being the opposite, as mentioned. Also they're putting their money on a right-wing terror group.

AJ Dual · « **Reply #14 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:23:53 PM »

Quote from: Balog on November 05, 2009, 04:18:10 PM

This. Sadly, I think that's a fairly likely scenario.

With each additional shooter, the odds of it being "domestic nuttery" goes down exponentialy. If it's just the two shooters, I'll grant a SLIM chance it's disgruntled/deranged people.

Three shooters who were pissed/disgruntled and decided to go out in a blaze of glory, extremely unlikely.

Then it's jihadi's or domestic converts/sympathizers. Recall there were six who planned such an attack on Ft. Dix recently.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #15 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:24:48 PM »

While we await more news, it's tough to not speculate. Does anyone know if there are any units now at Fort Hood that have recently returned from Iraq or Afghanistan?

red headed stranger · « **Reply #16 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:29:18 PM »

There was a report from a congressional aide that was there that there was a graduation ceremony going on today. And that there was a lot of shooting at the in/outprocessing center.

FWIW.

makattak · « **Reply #17 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:30:19 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on November 05, 2009, 04:24:48 PM

While we await more news, it's tough to not speculate. Does anyone know if there are any units now at Fort Hood that have recently returned from Iraq or Afghanistan?

According to Fox News:

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Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said... the post is a processing center where soldiers are processed before going to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Looks like Fort Hood is where they go BEFORE heading to Iraq/Afganistan.

SADShooter · « **Reply #18 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:31:41 PM »

Based on the lack of detail/confirmation, it could still be two incidents/one shooter. Still, I'm hoping this wasn't a soldier(s).

dogmush · « **Reply #19 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:33:29 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on November 05, 2009, 04:24:48 PM

While we await more news, it's tough to not speculate. Does anyone know if there are any units now at Fort Hood that have recently returned from Iraq or Afghanistan?

Yes. 4th SB at least just got back this summer.

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:41:07 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on November 05, 2009, 04:24:48 PM

While we await more news, it's tough to not speculate. Does anyone know if there are any units now at Fort Hood that have recently returned from Iraq or Afghanistan?

They have both units heading out and those coming back.

red headed stranger · « **Reply #21 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:43:14 PM »

Quote from: wmenorr67 on November 05, 2009, 04:41:07 PM

They have both units heading out and those coming back.

Yeah. Hood is a HUGE complex with a lot of different things going on.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:43:57 PM »

The links on DrudgeReport.com has a couple links.

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Banks says two shooters were apparently involved. There was no immediate word on who they were, nor on identities of the dead.

Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base.

Another Army official identified that site as the Howze Theater.

That official, who requested anonymity to discuss an evolving incident, said a graduation had been scheduled for 2 p.m. at the theater.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/6705513.html

Gowen · « **Reply #23 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:46:18 PM »

Dang, my wife's little brother is stationed at Fort Hood.

lupinus · « **Reply #24 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:50:57 PM »

news is reporting Obama and a Lt. General will be speaking in a couple minutes