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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on April 29, 2021, 05:54:03 PM
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Ashli Babbitt's family is suing the Capitol Police as well as the officer who killed her. I'm not saying the lawsuit is right or wrong. I was going to post about how long it would take for the left to suddenly make cops heroes again, but I can't ask that question, because they are already dissing her family for suing a hero.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/29/that-officer-was-a-hero-family-of-ashli-babbitt-to-sue-unidentified-capitol-police-officer-who-shot-her/
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I have never made a study, but I wonder if a civil claim is made in just about every police shooting, especially those that appear unjustified.
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I have never made a study, but I wonder if a civil claim is made in just about every police shooting, especially those that appear unjustified.
I'm wondering if the Capitol Police have special immunity regarding this compared to local LE. There was already some protection for the officer's identity that is not the case for local LE.
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I'm wondering if the Capitol Police have special immunity regarding this compared to local LE. There was already some protection for the officer's identity that is not the case for local LE.
The special protection is he’s a Hero of the Soviet Union for shooting an unarmed white conservative woman instead of a racist city cop who murders armed lifelong criminals who are turning their lives around
The media isn’t dare gonna dox a hero like that.
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Ashli Babbitt's family is suing the Capitol Police as well as the officer who killed her. I'm not saying the lawsuit is right or wrong. I was going to post about how long it would take for the left to suddenly make cops heroes again, but I can't ask that question, because they are already dissing her family for suing a hero.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/29/that-officer-was-a-hero-family-of-ashli-babbitt-to-sue-unidentified-capitol-police-officer-who-shot-her/
As well they should, she was no more wrong or just as wrong as others that have been shot by the Police and have filed claims or lawsuits. Maybe at least they will get an identity released of the shooter, why should he remain anonymous? One of the first things that normally happen in a police shooting is the ID is plastered all over the news.
bob
bob
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As well they should, she was no more wrong or just as wrong as others that have been shot by the Police and have filed claims or lawsuits. Maybe at least they will get an identity released of the shooter, why should he remain anonymous? One of the first things that normally happen in a police shooting is the ID is plastered all over the news.
I'm somewhat surprised that nobody - authorized or not - has posted the shooter's identity yet.
It appears that the government can keep a lid on things when they want to.
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I'm wondering if the Capitol Police have special immunity regarding this compared to local LE. There was already some protection for the officer's identity that is not the case for local LE.
Most liability claims against the Federal Government and its employees are handled via the Federal Tort Claims Act, which is a much more conservative legal environment than the civil court system. So the Government reviews the claim, decides whether to pay it or not, and if they don't, then you can sue them in Federal court, in which all cases are heard and decided by a judge, not a jury. Most plaintiff liability lawyers think it is more difficult to prevail against the Feds, the awards are lower, and there are caps on the plaintiff lawyer fees.
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I'll bet the guy is dead already.
I'll also bet that he was a staffer, and not a cop or "security."
Look at the footage. The guy was wearing cufflinks.
When is the last time you saw...
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I'll bet the guy is dead already.
I'll also bet that he was a staffer, and not a cop or "security."
Look at the footage. The guy was wearing cufflinks.
When is the last time you saw...
Fair point. That or something similar may be part of why his identity is being protected. He also might just be on a first name basis with some powerful Congresspeople.
Outside of that, I am glad they are able to sue. Hopefully they can at least get information released on the shooting from the Govt side. Likely there is video from the other side of that door.
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That or something similar may be part of why his identity is being protected.
My understanding was that the identity protection is part of being federal law enforcement. For instance, There are websites that let you see the FOIA'd salary information of all Federal employees every year. Except for LE and alphabet agencies. The information is only employee name, duty station, and salary, but it is still redacted for fed LE.
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Early on, I read reports that he was part of a congresscritters security detail. Afterword, I never heard anything about that and everything I read mentioned capital police.
Are the capital police assigned to individual congresscritters?
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Are the capital police assigned to individual congresscritters?
Apparently they can be. I read a story a few weeks back that (I think) Omar took a contingent of Capitol Police with her as bodyguards when she went to some city to promote defunding the police.
Yes, the irony.
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Take it for what it's worth: Gateway Pundit is claiming the killer is a lieutenant with the Capitol Police:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/breaking-exclusive-police-lieutenant-shot-killed-ashli-babbitt-lead-murder-suspect-ashli-babbitt-case/
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Apparently they can be. I read a story a few weeks back that (I think) Omar took a contingent of Capitol Police with her as bodyguards when she went to some city to promote defunding the police.
Yes, the irony.
I heard it pointed out yesterday, they may want to defund the police, but they really want to replace the police with something else. It won't be anarchy as some see it.
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Do you all think the killing was criminal?
I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.
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Maybe not criminal but it has been completely swept away. There are a couple videos of the shooting. A wide view and a closeup of the shooter. You can decide what you think after watching.
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9oThRuMVs
bob
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The ultimate goal of the
Democrats Marxists is to federalize the police.
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Do you all think the killing was criminal?
I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.
Do you think the officer or anyone on the other side of that door was actually in any sort of danger that warranted shooting her? Even if she made it through that hole in the door I am not sure it was warranted.
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The ultimate goal of the Democrats Marxists is to federalize the police.
The People's State Police.
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Do you all think the killing was criminal?
I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.
Yes. Criminal not in the sense that he intended to break a law, but criminal in the sense that it was a needless, senseless killing and therefore should be charged as something like criminal negligence, negligent homicide, or whatever such charges exist in federal law.
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I figured that AB figured that after breaching that barrier than she would get cuffed, stuffed, bonded out, and go home to tell stories.
I think the guy with the cufflinks was some sort of staffer who went hunting.
Seriously - pretty much ANY law enforcement officer, and a lot of folks like you and I, has training in use of force. Shoot/Don't Shoot. Is there a reason?
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Being part of an armed insurrection has real life and death consequences. You know why my husband didn’t watch me die? Cuz I wasn’t there.
"Horrible people exist on the Innernet, film at 11"
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Do you all think the killing was criminal?
I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.
I've seen no recent evidence that the criminality or not of a police shooting has any bearing on the filing or settling of a civil suit.
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I've seen no recent evidence that the criminality or not of a police shooting has any bearing on the filing or settling of a civil suit.
Or the instigation of riots and violence.
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I heard it pointed out yesterday, they may want to defund the police, but they really want to replace the police with something else. It won't be anarchy as some see it.
Of course. They claim they they want to "defund" the police, but really what they want is to BE the enforcers of the law.
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Of course. They claim they they want to "defund" the police, but really what they want is to BE the enforcers of the law.
I will once again be both a nag and a shill and recommend people read Kurt Schlichter's Kelly Turnbull series. What was once over the top fiction is now reality. You'll see exactly what the progressives want.
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True - Schlichter has really hit the nail on the head regarding some of my actual woke folk neighbors.
They'll protest if a heroin dealer who was trying to kill someone gets shot by the cops, but they don't even want to talk about innocent victims.
And if it is found out that the shooter was a staffer, they'll scream that he should be given a medal for executing the smallest unarmed person who could squeeze through the door.
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You know, it'd be interesting if the capitol cops look at the lawsuit, and their budget, and say "Uh... that guy wasn't one of ours."
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You know, it'd be interesting if the capitol cops look at the lawsuit, and their budget, and say "Uh... that guy wasn't one of ours."
They are federally funded so their budget is essentially infinite.
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Yes. Criminal not in the sense that he intended to break a law, but criminal in the sense that it was a needless, senseless killing and therefore should be charged as something like criminal negligence, negligent homicide, or whatever such charges exist in federal law.
If Chauvin can be convicted of murder for his actions, this guy can be at least charged with murder.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the shooter actually had a negligent discharge and didn't intentionally pull the trigger. Doesn't matter really, the result is the same: the woman is dead and the shooter will walk.
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I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the shooter actually had a negligent discharge and didn't intentionally pull the trigger. Doesn't matter really, the result is the same: the woman is dead and the shooter will walk.
I have wondered about that. I can't believe he didn't see or wasn't aware via comms of all the trigger pullers behind her. A question might be: If a negligent discharge, did he admit it and the gov is hiding that, or did he have a negligent discharge and is he lying his way out of it?
Again, it might not have been a negligent discharge, but if it was, there are certainly questions about it.
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Didn't look like a negligent discharge.
Low ready, finger indexed along side... Finger onto the trigger, raises it and sights. Fires.
Cufflinks?
Seriously? That's one helluva stylish "cop."