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Title: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Northwoods on January 15, 2022, 03:38:20 PM
Details very sketchy but sounds like a synagogue in Texas has been attacked.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-swat-team-responds-to-incident-at-synagogue-as-facebook-cuts-service-livestream?cmpid=fb_fnc&fbclid=IwAR1XMaAMjVm6eAT0YLASJRLvlkb7ZeRiL2K59ExSZiLdHqI3Oj6G63n0q2A
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: cordex on January 15, 2022, 04:05:18 PM
Wow, that comment section is weird.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2022, 04:08:33 PM
Wow, that comment section is weird.

Fox News comment section is always weird. You get the really extreme right, but then you also get the really extreme left that are "monitoring" Fox News.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: WLJ on January 15, 2022, 04:23:31 PM
Fox News comment section is always weird. You get the really extreme right, but then you also get the really extreme left that are "monitoring" Fox News.

And a bunch of trolls
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2022, 06:10:01 PM
Andy Ngo is reporting that the hostage taker is with the religion of peace.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJK9LEgWQAEAQdp?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: WLJ on January 16, 2022, 06:55:42 AM
Hostages safe, suspect dead

Texas hostage situation: All hostages 'alive and safe,' Greg Abbott tweets after hours-long ordeal
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-swat-team-responds-to-incident-at-synagogue-as-facebook-cuts-service-livestream
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MillCreek on January 16, 2022, 09:09:28 AM
The miscreant ended up dead after the FBI HRT entered the building.  A loud bang and gunfire was heard.  Not yet specified just how the miscreant ended up dead.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 16, 2022, 09:21:00 AM
Thank God. Apparently no injuries to anyone accept the attacker.

I wonder if the perp will get a Rolling Stone cover story.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Ben on January 16, 2022, 09:21:58 AM
It's interesting watching the FBI, Biden admin, and MSM pushing an "not an attack on Jews" narrative.

While I will concede that this was not a direct attack on Jews, as in, harming Jews was his primary purpose, it's not coincidental that he picked a synagogue. To him, this was a group that could be sacrificed for his cause. He could have chosen any number of places that would have given him more hostages to negotiate with. I guarantee if this was a black church, the above three entities would be singing a different tune.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: WLJ on January 16, 2022, 06:05:35 PM

Texas synagogue hostage-taker was British
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60014006
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 16, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Per the above article, he's been in country for 2 weeks, and was supposed to have gotten some weapons here. I presume Big Media is already blaming Texas gun laws, especially permitless carry.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: cordex on January 16, 2022, 06:53:06 PM
Texas synagogue hostage-taker was British
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60014006
Man, those Brits are such anti-semites. I bet more than anything it was his Britishness that made him attack a synagogue.

Glad no innocents were killed.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: BobR on January 16, 2022, 09:25:33 PM
Texas synagogue hostage-taker was British
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60014006

I would like to know what he was before he was British. The Brits have a worse record than us (the USA) when it comes to relocating radicals inside their borders.

bob
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: HankB on January 16, 2022, 10:05:36 PM
Texas synagogue hostage-taker was British
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60014006
The perp's name was Malik Faisal Akram, not Smedley Smyth-Barrow, Rodney Buckingham, or something of the sort.

Wonder if he came from the part of Britain colloquially referred to as Londonistan.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Northwoods on January 16, 2022, 10:30:41 PM
Most likely Pakistani in origin.  Possibly Indian Muslim, but that’s low probability.  A few other possibilities but even less likely than Indian Muslim.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 16, 2022, 11:54:01 PM
From the article:

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In the UK, counter-terrorist police confirmed that Malik Faisal Akram was originally from the Blackburn area of Lancashire.

Sounds like he was born there. The woman he was talking about is Pakistani, and there are plenty of Pakistani-Brits, so Pakistani heritage seems likely.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MillCreek on January 17, 2022, 09:03:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMAF9cVb98

It looks as if the hostages escaped themselves and the HRT went in afterwards.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: cordex on January 17, 2022, 09:24:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMAF9cVb98

It looks as if the hostages escaped themselves and the HRT went in afterwards.
Intense.  It took some guts for those hostages to make a break for it.  Definitely the right move to cut out of the line of the doorway too.  Doesn't look like HRT was ready for the way it developed but when the shooting started they took care of business..
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Ben on January 17, 2022, 09:31:58 AM
Quick thinking by the hostages.

How many battle rattle guys were there? It looked like freakin' fifty of them.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2022, 09:34:00 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60019251
Texas synagogue siege: Teens held in UK as Briton named as hostage-taker

Makes me curious what these teens might know.  Might just be fishing.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: cordex on January 17, 2022, 09:38:56 AM
How many battle rattle guys were there? It looked like freakin' fifty of them.
The FBI's HRT has 149 full-time duty team members, so fifty wouldn't be out of the question.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Ben on January 17, 2022, 09:43:45 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60019251
Texas synagogue siege: Teens held in UK as Briton named as hostage-taker

Makes me curious what these teens might know.  Might just be fishing.

The apparently quick collaboration between US and Brit LE was interesting. I guess good in some ways, but a little scary in others.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 17, 2022, 10:26:56 AM
At least the Feds managed not to burn the place down.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: cordex on January 17, 2022, 10:34:25 AM
At least the Feds managed not to burn the place down.
Practice makes perfect.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: 230RN on January 17, 2022, 11:07:10 AM
It would be funny if they made their simultaneous breakout and get out of the doorway plans in Hebrew.

Well, wouldn't it?

=D
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 17, 2022, 04:38:04 PM
Meanwhile, the Michigan AG attributed the situation to white supremacy.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/michigan-ag-dana-nessel-incorrectly-suggests-white-supremacy-behind-texas-synagogue-hostage-crisis/
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2022, 04:51:57 PM
At least the Feds managed not to burn the place down.
Well, since the hostages got out, what would be the point. 
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2022, 05:01:51 PM
Meanwhile, the Michigan AG attributed the situation to white supremacy.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/michigan-ag-dana-nessel-incorrectly-suggests-white-supremacy-behind-texas-synagogue-hostage-crisis/
I guess certain people in politics have mental blinders.  When the subject of anti-Semitism comes up, they automatically assume "white supremacism" and can't imagine anyone else who might not like Jews. 
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: ConstitutionCowboy on January 17, 2022, 05:15:24 PM
It would be funny if they made their simultaneous breakout and get out of the doorway plans in Hebrew.

Well, wouldn't it?

=D

Yup. (The sad thing for me is that the best I could do is pig Latin. ) :old:
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2022, 05:15:54 PM
Related:
FBI Says They Still Haven’t Found A Motive For 9/11
https://babylonbee.com/news/fbi-says-they-still-havent-found-a-motive-for-911

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COLLEYVILLE, TX—In a press conference after the synagogue hostage situation this weekend, the FBI said they are still looking for a motive that would explain why an Islamic extremist would attack a Jewish house of worship.

"Please be patient with us, because determining motive is really really hard," said Special Agent Deebles McPaddycake to reporters. "To be fair, we still haven't even figured out a motive for the 9/11 attacks yet. Who knows what drove a coordinated team of Islamic extremists to fly planes into buildings? According to our best experts, these men were victims of white supremacy, and they seemed to really hate buildings—so that's probably why they did that. We're still working on it though. It's a real mystery."

And in other news...
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FBI agents are also looking into the mysterious reasons why the entire country hates the FBI, but say they may be 10-15 years away from any clear answers. "We're pretty sure it has something to do with white supremacy," said Wray.

Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: ConstitutionCowboy on January 17, 2022, 05:19:27 PM
Related:
FBI Says They Still Haven’t Found A Motive For 9/11
https://babylonbee.com/news/fbi-says-they-still-havent-found-a-motive-for-911

And in other news...

I'd say they need to look at devotion to the Koran.

Woody
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MillCreek on January 17, 2022, 05:49:23 PM
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/17/1073637162/colleyville-texas-synagogue-rabbi-threw-chair-before-escape

Throw a chair at your attacker and run like heck!
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 17, 2022, 07:09:40 PM
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/17/1073637162/colleyville-texas-synagogue-rabbi-threw-chair-before-escape

Throw a chair at your attacker and run like heck!

The rabbi is going to be on the FBI most wanted list for throwing cold water on their story that they "rescued" the hostages.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: WLJ on January 17, 2022, 07:50:04 PM
I see Biden went straight to gun control

https://youtu.be/PoCuA_Sw8EU?t=54
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: WLJ on January 18, 2022, 07:46:47 AM
More info on the guy

He had been under investigation but "was assessed to be no longer a risk."
The "no longer" bit  makes me go Hmmmm

And this too

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Friends of Akram in Blackburn said his mental health had been getting worse and expressed surprise that he had been able to travel to the US.

Texas synagogue hostage-taker was known to MI5
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60038207
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Ben on January 20, 2022, 11:11:36 AM
Some more info:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/01/20/were-coming-to-fking-america-well-give-them-fking-war-gosh-looks-like-mainstream-media-left-a-lot-out-about-the-tx-synagogue-gunman/

I'm kinda surprised that the MSM has been avoiding it, as his statements on how easy it was to get a gun seem to be of higher value to the MSM propaganda agenda than his racial motives.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Ben on January 20, 2022, 06:41:37 PM
Interesting take by the Rabbi that was held hostage:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/01/20/attention-armament-fanatics-what-saved-the-hostages-in-colleyville-wasnt-a-gun-but-a-calm-kind-presence/
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 20, 2022, 08:55:17 PM
Interesting take by the Rabbi that was held hostage:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/01/20/attention-armament-fanatics-what-saved-the-hostages-in-colleyville-wasnt-a-gun-but-a-calm-kind-presence/

These people must have watched a different video than the one I saw:

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The attacker chased them out of the building — pointing the gun at them. What stopped him at that point was being shot. If he had not been shot, it is possible (and likely) he would have shot them then.

What stopped him wasn't being shot. What stopped him was seeing a SWAT team and an APC outside the building, at which point he ducked back inside.

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Hostage taker was literally stopped by a gun as he tried to chase down and kill the fleeing kind presence.

No ... he was not.

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There’s literally video that shows the hostage taker running after the hostages, gun in hand, as they escaped and that’s when the FBI shot him…but ok? https://t.co/jOruJIoWGf

Actually, that's not when the FBI shot him ... but ok?
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: WLJ on January 26, 2022, 09:18:26 PM
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Now the man who sold the Taurus G2C pistol to Akram — Henry Williams — has been charged with federal crimes including illegal possession of a firearm by a convicted felon (go figure). The DOJ has issued this statement . .

Man Who Sold a Gun to the Brit Who Held Four Hostage in a Texas Synagogue Has Been Charged With Federal Crimes
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/man-who-sold-a-gun-to-the-brit-who-held-four-hostage-in-a-texas-synagogue-charged-with-federal-crimes/
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: MechAg94 on January 26, 2022, 09:54:07 PM
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As part of its intensive investigation into the hostage taking, the FBI tied Mr. Williams to Mr. Akram through an analysis of Mr. Akram’s cellphone records, which showed the pair exchanged a series of calls from Jan. 11 through Jan. 13.

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After viewing a photo of Mr. Akram, Mr. Williams confirmed he sold Mr. Akram the handgun at an intersection in South Dallas. Analysis of both men’s cellphone records showed that the two phones were in close proximity on Jan. 13.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Bogie on January 26, 2022, 10:27:43 PM
So... Are we now going to see legislation prohibiting "person to person" sales?
Title: Re: Synagogue attack?
Post by: Northwoods on January 26, 2022, 11:17:05 PM
So... Are we now going to see legislation prohibiting "person to person" sales?

Given this was a black market sale by an already prohibited possessor to another prohibited possessor, and not in any way a legal sale already, yeah, that’s probably the most likely outcome.