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Title: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Ben on January 31, 2020, 07:44:22 PM
If Weinstein now says he is closet trans, does he get a free pass?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/harvey-weinstein-intersex-lacks-genitalia
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Unisaw on January 31, 2020, 08:43:23 PM
Hollyweird becomes Hollyweirder.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 31, 2020, 10:51:46 PM
If Weinstein now says he is closet trans, does he get a free pass?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/harvey-weinstein-intersex-lacks-genitalia

"I choose now to live as a gay man intersex person."
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: WLJ on January 31, 2020, 10:55:36 PM
I'm hearing the theme music from Monty Python

Maybe Schiff should investigate
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 31, 2020, 10:59:04 PM
I'm hearing the theme music from Monty Python

Maybe Schiff should investigate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbedV0cPajg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbedV0cPajg)
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: BobR on February 01, 2020, 12:41:29 AM
This thread is worthless without pictures..... but then again we would probably all leave and never come back in fear they would show up again.

bob
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: zxcvbob on February 01, 2020, 02:43:04 AM
This thread is worthless without pictures.....
bob

Let's just leave it worthless, okay?   [barf]
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: BobR on February 01, 2020, 10:14:41 AM
I think he is a lying scumbag and probably paid her to say those things. I really like the act he is pulling with the walker, when he was rich and famous I bet he was just fine and now that he is looking at jail he has become frail and fragile, but it looks like he still eats just fine.  ;/

bob
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: WLJ on February 01, 2020, 10:38:46 AM
Now if this turns out to be true what does this do to the Me-Too movement considering a lot of it got momentum from the Weinstein case and it turns out he/she is a PC protected class?  
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Ben on February 01, 2020, 10:45:37 AM
I think he is a lying scumbag and probably paid her to say those things.

bob

That was my first thought. Scumbag that he is, I'm sure he'd do anything to stay out of the pokey. Though it's not like he can "hide the evidence" so to speak.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Fly320s on February 01, 2020, 11:53:10 AM
Kind of a dumb move by Weinstein.  It is pretty easy to check to see how he is equipped. 
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: grampster on February 01, 2020, 12:48:37 PM
That was a ballsy thing for her to say.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: AJ Dual on February 01, 2020, 05:12:40 PM
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Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: WLJ on February 24, 2020, 12:24:16 PM
"Is Weinstein Off the Hook?"

Nope
No word on equipment status

Harvey Weinstein found guilty of third-degree rape, criminal sex act
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/harvey-weinstein-found-guilty-of-sex-assault-could-face-decades-in-prison
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Andiron on February 24, 2020, 11:07:08 PM
"Is Weinstein Off the Hook?"

Nope
No word on equipment status

Harvey Weinstein found guilty of third-degree rape, criminal sex act
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/harvey-weinstein-found-guilty-of-sex-assault-could-face-decades-in-prison

Hahahah.

Not holding my breath,  but *expletive deleted*ck that guy,  hope he gets everything coming to him.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 24, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
At any point in the trial, did they ask Whoopi if it was rape-rape?
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Ben on February 25, 2020, 08:30:31 AM
Looks like he already pulled the "I'm having a heart attack" routine and was diverted to the hospital while en route to the pokey.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: WLJ on April 25, 2024, 10:59:05 AM
And we have an update, his NY conviction has been overturned
They may update the story but not clear what the issue is.
New trial has been ordered

Quote
Harvey Weinstein has had his New York rape and sexual assault convictions overturned.

The New York Court of Appeals ruled that the disgraced movie producer did not receive a fair trial when he was convicted in 2020.

It is unclear if the bombshell ruling will free him from prison, as he still has another conviction in Los Angeles for a separate rape.

Harvey Weinstein's rape conviction overturned over 'crucial mistake' by New York judge... and he could now walk free
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13349859/Harvey-Weinsteis-New-York-sex-crime-conviction-overturned.html
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: K Frame on April 25, 2024, 01:23:36 PM
Just another crushing salvo in Trump's whitecentric war against women.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: 230RN on April 25, 2024, 01:31:23 PM
Of technical interest only:

"In a 4-3 decision, the appellant court determined that the Judge Burke had made an error in allowing women to testify who were not part of the case.

'It is an abuse of judicial discretion to permit untested allegations of nothing more than bad behavior that destroys a defendant's character but sheds no light on their credibility as related to the criminal charges lodged against them,' the decision read"

^^ From the Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13349859/Harvey-Weinsteis-New-York-sex-crime-conviction-overturned.html

which seems to consistently have more complete and accurate news than most news outlets.... just sayin' incidentally.

My "technical interest" involves my long-standing and oft-repeated opinion that procedural errors on the part of the prosecution or the judge should bar retrials on that case and all charges dismissed. See and apply the concept of "legal lenity*."

This, on my theory that if the accusers can't make a proper case the first time around, tough noogies, and go find another violation to crucify someone on.  It also smacks of the "double jeopardy" clause in the Bill Of Rights**, but who gives a *expletive deleted*it about the Bill Of Rights anymore anyhow.  It's just a piece of wrinkled old paper.

My technical interest is completely apart from the salacity (tee-hee-giggle-giggle) of this case. 

Terry, 230RN

* https://duckduckgo.com/?q=legal+lenity&t=brave&ia=web

** I regard the Constitution and BOR as a new edition of the Common Law, so don't bring up Blackstone to me.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: MechAg94 on April 25, 2024, 01:35:44 PM
He is only off the hook if the prosecutors are too busy going after Trump to retry his case.  However, it does appear that prosecutors and judges in New York have made a habit of ignoring precedent and proper court procedures if it is politically attractive to go after the defendant. 

I wouldn't be surprised to find out the prosecutors decided not to retry the case after getting hefty campaign contributions.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 25, 2024, 01:43:49 PM
If Weinstein now says he is closet trans, does he get a free pass?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/harvey-weinstein-intersex-lacks-genitalia

"Closet trans" is SOOOOOO yesterday. The current buzz word is "non-binary."
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: 230RN on April 25, 2024, 03:18:42 PM
He is only off the hook if the prosecutors are too busy going after Trump to retry his case.  However, it does appear that prosecutors and judges in New York have made a habit of ignoring precedent and proper court procedures if it is politically attractive to go after the defendant. 

I wouldn't be surprised to find out the prosecutors decided not to retry the case after getting hefty campaign contributions.

Good suppositions.

But not evidence.

Case dismissed.

Lenity.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: MechAg94 on April 25, 2024, 04:22:14 PM
Good suppositions.

But not evidence.

Case dismissed.

Lenity.
Maybe now he can go work for Lucas Film alongside his former personal assistant who probably aided in his abuse of women.  She wrote a book about the horror and is now a show runner for Lucas Film. 
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: MechAg94 on April 25, 2024, 04:25:30 PM
It is always good to remember that he was by far not the only one in Hollywood doing all the same stuff.  He was just the public sacrifice of the #metoo movement; kicking him to the curb so others could take power in Hollywood. 
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: MillCreek on April 26, 2024, 11:07:41 AM
He is also serving a California sentence concurrently with his New York sentence.  So he will remain in a New York prison regardless pending his New York retrial.
Title: Re: Is Weinstein Off the Hook?
Post by: HankB on April 27, 2024, 08:59:40 AM
Glad he'll remain in jail for the additional crimes he was convicted of.

I'm having a hard time seeing a retrial on the same charges, what with double jeopardy and all. What are they doing, pretending the 1st trial never really happened?