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White Horseradish

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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2011, 03:45:15 PM »
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2011, 04:07:57 PM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on April 30, 2011, 12:54:49 PM
Eh. I misspoke. What I meant is that not having a circumcision won't kill you. Fixed it now.

In a nation of 300 million people where must be at least a few horrific lathe accidents amongst the nudist woodworkers.
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #77 on: April 30, 2011, 04:28:11 PM »
Good grief people, hyperbole much?  There are painless ways to perform circumcision that do not involve the actual cutting of tissue.  These methods have been in use going back at least 30 years if not longer.  It doesn't help your anti-circumcision arguments to get all out of breath over, "OMG!!! There's cutting and blood and pain and screaming and stuff!!!"
As to the actual necessity of circumcision, I hold no real opinion at this point.
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2011, 04:42:42 PM »
And yet cutting is still widely used among those individuals who do it for religious reasons.
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #79 on: April 30, 2011, 05:00:52 PM »
Causing unnecessary pain to babies doesn't seem like a very good idea.
Plus Shooting Student/deselby is for it, he hates babies. >:D
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #80 on: April 30, 2011, 08:40:48 PM »
Figured they'd be smegma lovers.
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #81 on: April 30, 2011, 08:55:26 PM »
Quote from: RocketMan on April 30, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
Good grief people, hyperbole much?  There are painless ways to perform circumcision that do not involve the actual cutting of tissue.  These methods have been in use going back at least 30 years if not longer.  It doesn't help your anti-circumcision arguments to get all out of breath over, "OMG!!! There's cutting and blood and pain and screaming and stuff!!!"
As to the actual necessity of circumcision, I hold no real opinion at this point.
Oh sure, death from foreskin infection and gay conspiracy are so much closer to reality...
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #82 on: May 01, 2011, 12:25:06 AM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on April 30, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Oh sure, death from foreskin infection and gay conspiracy are so much closer to reality...

Wasn't Hitler gay?  And part of a conspiracy?  And, uh, "unshorn?"

I rest my case.  =D

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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #83 on: May 01, 2011, 12:32:41 AM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on April 30, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Oh sure, death from foreskin infection and gay conspiracy are so much closer to reality...

I don't see anyone seriously proposing that here.  I believe it was highlighted more as the equivalent risk (ie, very low) to the risk of complications from circumcision.

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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #84 on: May 01, 2011, 03:51:28 AM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on April 30, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Oh sure, death from foreskin infection and gay conspiracy are so much closer to reality...

What the heck are you rambling about?
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #85 on: May 01, 2011, 07:38:20 AM »
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What the heck are you rambling about?
Me?

Quote from: dogmush on April 30, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
Oh for cryin out loud.  Sure it can.  It can lead to infections, which can lead to death.  Anyone want to dig up a mortality rate for infections?  Better do it for all ages, as there's no telling when that infection will kick in. (Damn nursing homes) Then cross reference it by original infection site.
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #86 on: May 01, 2011, 08:03:40 AM »
Okay, that post by dogmush is exactly what I described - illustrating that there are improbable consequences on the other side as well.
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Re: Voting to ban male circumcision in San Francisco
« Reply #87 on: May 01, 2011, 09:59:20 AM »
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