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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: WLJ on July 24, 2020, 01:34:32 PM
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This coming from a Councilman elect. And I will bet good money he'll be one of the most vocal about businesses not wanting to build downtown
Portland here we come. :facepalm:
Let me be very clear. I can’t tell the future. I don’t know what Daniel Cameron is going to come out and say. I don’t know what protesters are going to do. If you are that concerned about your business, then put boards up. But don’t be naive enough to believe that those boards are going to hide the fact that you don’t hire black people. Those boards aren’t going to hide the fact that you don’t carry black products. Those boards don’t hide the fact that you aren’t very welcoming to black people in your business. You can put boards up all day long but they do not hide racism. Your board’s going to product your glass, but it won’t protect (you).
Jecorey Arthur: Councilman-elect offers candid warning to Louisville businesses
https://www.wave3.com/2020/07/24/jecorey-arthur-councilman-elect-offers-candid-warning-louisville-businesses/
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From what I've seen of the
protesters rioters, they don't much care if a business caters to black people or employs black people or is owned by black people. If they want to steal your *expletive deleted*it and *expletive deleted*ck up your property they are going to do it.
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After the Cinco de Mayo riots in DC back in the early 1990s the areas affected became a business ghost town. A lot of businesses that were damaged or destroyed didn't reopen. Some of the businesses that weren't damaged/destroyed moved out.
And, of course, it became a multi-year bitch festival about how businesses were ignoring the area.
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After the Cinco de Mayo riots in DC back in the early 1990s the areas affected became a business ghost town. A lot of businesses that were damaged or destroyed didn't reopen. Some of the businesses that weren't damaged/destroyed moved out.
And, of course, it became a multi-year bitch festival about how businesses were ignoring the area.
Ghost town is the proper response. The businesses weren't ignoring the area, they were shunning it. I think I've said here that the Target that was vandalized and looted in Minneapolis should have been abandoned and left unrepaired as an eyesore; a monument to the stupidity of the people who looted it. Large businesses have deep enough pockets to figuratively tell a community "*expletive deleted*ck you too!" after an incident like that. And small businesses don't have deep enough pockets to take a chance on rebuilding or opening there. Let 'em all (the community) starve.
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. . . The businesses weren't ignoring the area, they were shunning it. . . .
Why do you think certain areas are (as Michelle Obama lamented some years back) "Food Deserts?"
In many, many cases it's because in prior years riots, arson, looting, and just plain robberies drove businesses away.
Including grocery stores.
Duh.
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A number of years ago a local chain grocery store responded to the need to fill a void in the food desert in North Tulsa.
IIRC they were robbed at gun point 2-3 times in the first month and on a fairly regular basis until they closed it down less than a year after opening.
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Some of the problematically non-leftist black intellectuals I've been listening to lately point out that peaceful demonstrations led to the civil rights legislation of the mid-60s, while the riots of the late 60s led to the hollowing out of black neighborhoods in places like Detroit. (Oh, and gentrification is good for minorities and their neighborhoods, too.)
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Some of the problematically non-leftist black intellectuals I've been listening to lately point out that peaceful demonstrations led to the civil rights legislation of the mid-60s, while the riots of the late 60s led to the hollowing out of black neighborhoods in places like Detroit. (Oh, and gentrification is good for minorities and their neighborhoods, too.)
I don't think it's that simple. I think peaceful protest works better then violence, but only when there's an implied threat of violence if it's ignored. MLK Jr was more successful than Malcolm X, but he was successful in part because of Malcolm X. (that's my theory based on not a lot of research) Otherwise the peaceful movement is just a paper tiger.
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I don't think it's that simple. I think peaceful protest works better then violence, but only when there's an implied threat of violence if it's ignored. MLK Jr was more successful than Malcolm X, but he was successful in part because of Malcolm X. (that's my theory based on not a lot of research) Otherwise the peaceful movement is just a paper tiger.
No expert here, so I guess that's possible. I think MLK just seemed like a very decent and reasonable and patriotic guy, and that appealed to a lot of people, and possibly shamed some other people into doing the right thing.
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MLK was homophobic and should be canceled.
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MLK was from, like, 50 years ago, and a man. That's reason enough, it seems.
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I was around and an adult during the days of MLK and Malcomb X, and in LE. They both were doing the same thing in different ways. Both were telling black people to clean up their acts and take part in America; get educated, get a job, value family etc. MLK, at the same time was appealing to whites and blacks to stop considering skin color and build character. Malcomb X didn't much care what white people did or said. He didn't much care about white people at all. He just flat told black people to grab the brass ring themselves and screw the rest of the world. Which is probably why both of them were murdered.
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Here's one cartoonist's take on what might have happened if MLK's fate were a bit different - it's an episode of The Boondocks, based on the comic strip of the same name.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7a0es2
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Here's one cartoonist's take on what might have happened if MLK's fate were a bit different - it's an episode of The Boondocks, based on the comic strip of the same name.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7a0es2
WTF was that?? I liked it. I think I've seen a couple of those characters before but don't know where.
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WTF was that?? I liked it. I think I've seen a couple of those characters before but don't know where.
Aaron McGruder - who is black - drew a comic strip focusing on two black boys being raised by their grandfather. It ran in the newspapers for a while, and became an animated TV show. Both the comic strip and cartoon were named The Boondocks.
I regularly watched the TV cartoon show and often found it hilarious, but I suspect some would say I occasionally laughed at the wrong times and for the wrong reasons. ;)
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But wait there's more Louisville business news.
Taking cues from the Mafia
https://www.wave3.com/2020/07/27/protesters-ask-nulu-businesses-sign-contract-promising-changes/
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WAVE) - Protesters have demanded action from NuLu businesses and want them to sign a contract promising they will make changes.
Protesters sent out a three-page contract to NuLu businesses following Friday’s protest. Some of the demands call for a 23% representation of Black employees, business owners, and staff participation in diversity training and ordering businesses to donate a certain percentage of profits to Local Black Organizations if they cannot fill their stores with 23% of merchandise from Black-owned brands.
By signing the contract, NuLu businesses, “acknowledge that my business has played a part in the harm done to Clarksdale’s original residents.”
Part of NuLu was previously known as Clarksdale. Protesters state in their contract that the original Clarksdale residents were actively rejected and pushed out of their community.
Angie Garner, the owner of the art gallery Garner Narrative, has already signed the contract and hung it in her window, which was another demand by protesters.
“I felt relieved to see the demands!” Garner wrote in an email to WAVE 3 News. “I read through them and was so happy to see that I can actually DO all these things... In my eyes, (the contract) is not a matter of providing validation to Black Louisvillians, but correcting unjust practice and sharing out opportunity. The people who need to learn the Clarksdale history are mostly white.”
While Garner looks forward to implementing all of the demands, including incorporating diversity training and attending round-table discussions led by Black women, another business owner in NuLu who did not wish to be named told WAVE 3 News the contract feels like a “punch in the gut” after suffering through the coronavirus pandemic.
The contract says the demands must be met by August 17, with a 5% increase in Black representation every six months.
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They want 13.4% of the population represented by 23% of the work force?
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I hope they all hang the contracts in their windows. From a noose.
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Cuban Americans rally in support of Nulu restaurant owner
https://www.wlky.com/article/cuban-americans-rally-in-support-of-nulu-restaurant-owner/33493912
Martinez denounced the list of demands in a social media post, saying protesters were trying to intimidate him. A press release for the event stated that people on social media were ordered to "get" Martinez. A small group came to the restaurant and "more threats were made and some property was destroyed."
Ahamara Brewster, a general with the Revolutionary Black Panther Party also spoke at the rally. She said while she agrees with the demands protesters made, she believes their approach was disrespectful.
"You're attacking a Black-brown establishment, but you're in the name of Black Lives Matter? Wait a minute, something's weird about this," Brewster said.
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They want 13.4% of the population represented by 23% of the work force?
Another dumbass white guy who hasn't yet learned that 2+2!=4 if you're of the correct diversity. Freakin' racist.
Interesting side factoid, "does not equal" mathematical symbols are "hate symbols" now, according to the ADL.
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/not-equal
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Another dumbass white guy who hasn't yet learned that 2+2!=4 if you're of the correct diversity. Freakin' racist.
Interesting side factoid, "does not equal" mathematical symbols are "hate symbols" now, according to the ADL.
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/not-equal
Is context also hateful?
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Another dumbass white guy who hasn't yet learned that 2+2!=4 if you're of the correct diversity. Freakin' racist.
Interesting side factoid, "does not equal" mathematical symbols are "hate symbols" now, according to the ADL.
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/not-equal
Saw Thor's hammer is too. Guess they'll have to ban a bunch of Marvel comics and movies now or do what they did to E.T. and photoshop it to a flashlight.
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I think Heinlein was onto something when he wrote about The Crazy Years in his stories. We certainly seem to be living in crazy years.
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Is context also hateful?
If X=White, then True.
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Saw Thor's hammer is too. Guess they'll have to ban a bunch of Marvel comics and movies now or do what they did to E.T. and photoshop it to a flashlight.
The "Aryan fist" is a hate symbol, but the BLM fist is not?
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/aryan-fist
And, oh looky. ADL uses "Latinx" unironically. https://www.adl.org/latinx
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The "Aryan fist" is a hate symbol, but the BLM fist is not?
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/aryan-fist
And, oh looky. ADL uses "Latinx" unironically. https://www.adl.org/latinx
Why would I report a hate crime to the Mexican consulate?
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Why would I report a hate crime to the Mexican consulate?
To annoy them? :D
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Good luck to the NuLu businesses.
https://youtu.be/pxSn-2b53Ac (https://youtu.be/pxSn-2b53Ac)
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Yeah, downtown is where I want to be
Click on the video
https://www.wave3.com/2020/08/09/lmpd-arrests-made-downtown-protests-saturday/