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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2013, 04:12:47 PM »
You guys watch weird stuff on the tube. =D

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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2013, 04:13:30 PM »
I'm thinking it's Rick feeding the rats and going insane.

He's not come back from the brink. He's just gone to a different ledge.


Oooohhhh what if he killed and burned the sick!!!!

Somehow I interpreted the blood trails as someone coughing up blood due to sickness and dragging himself/herself outside and burning himself/herself alive so as not to turn when dead.

Someone feeding the rats is what made me think the other way.  Someone in there is *expletive deleted*ed up....
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2013, 04:38:16 PM »
you would think they would drag in a cargo container
set it in front of a gate
open the doors
open the gate
pound on the back
fill with zeds
close gate
close doors
exterminate

a simple oneway door and a noise maker could be a nice mousetrap
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2013, 04:48:26 PM »
Or at least put cargo containers in front of the fence.

I don't care how many zeds are pushing at a cargo container's walls.  They could have hundreds crushing against a container, all they'll do is squish their buddies up front into jelly.

It would also block visual access of the yard, stopping zed from coming around at all.

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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2013, 05:51:58 PM »
you would think they would drag in a cargo container
set it in front of a gate
open the doors
open the gate
pound on the back
fill with zeds
close gate
close doors
exterminate

a simple oneway door and a noise maker could be a nice mousetrap

Needs to be emptied.

Inner perimeter of containers makes sense.

Remember the zeds are drawn to movement AND sound.  So there would still be some drawn to the prison no matter what fortifications were erected.
Another option would be mounting spikes along the fence like the crazy guy who originally found Rick had back at his town.
As it is now, the zeds have unabated access to swarm the fence. 
Also, they've had the manpower, they could have reinforced the fences with all manner of things.  They put a lot of thought into the gate, but the fence is how they accessed the prison originally and should be considered a weak point.
Woodbury is a great example on how they should be doing it.
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2013, 06:05:13 PM »

Also, they've had the manpower, they could have reinforced the fences with all manner of things.  They put a lot of thought into the gate, but the fence is how they accessed the prison originally and should be considered a weak point.
Woodbury is a great example on how they should be doing it.

Yeah, that bugged me. They have all kinds of stuff they can use to strengthen the fence.

Not sure about lining the fence with containers. While creating a stronger barrier, it also creates "sneak up" points for not necessarily walkers. Kinda like not keeping big bushes near the windows of your house that would give burglars hiding places.
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #82 on: October 23, 2013, 06:25:04 PM »
fire would empty the trap
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #83 on: October 23, 2013, 07:29:43 PM »
fire would empty the trap

Remember the torched walkers in the pit?  I'd say it does a lot of damage to them but doesn't take them out of the equation.  To really toss them off, you'd probably need the kinds of temperatures that would melt a container.

Yeah, that bugged me. They have all kinds of stuff they can use to strengthen the fence.

Not sure about lining the fence with containers. While creating a stronger barrier, it also creates "sneak up" points for not necessarily walkers. Kinda like not keeping big bushes near the windows of your house that would give burglars hiding places.

Use it strategically.   Areas that are more prone to draw zeds, like near the gates. 
The guard tower still functions, which gives visibility to cover some areas.
Also, might be worth creating an absolutely rock solid inner perimeter.  IIRC the prison has two fences and then the outer wall shares some fence with the yards.  I'd also concentrate on making that innermost perimeter as strong as possible.  Stack whatever will stack inside the fences.  Block off doors and windows that aren't necessary. 
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #84 on: October 23, 2013, 10:29:24 PM »
Blood trails. Both bodies were dragged to the burn site.  Obviously, they might have died and then been dragged out and burned.  But the midnight feeding of the rats at the fence has the hair on the back of my neck saying "But wait, there's more!"[/i]


One of the reasons I keep watching.  The staff on this show loves hairy twists & turns - and so do I!

I like the idea of a solid wall, but not as the first barrier.  Leave the chain link fence up and setup watches on top of the solid barrier. 

I was going to suggest the watches be armed with something low-tech & reusable, i.e. spears, bows etc.  But they're either not long range enough or not accurate enough for consistent head shots on moving targets.  Fire's not a good option.  A moat - not so good either.  Spikes/stakes - need to be cleaned off, meaning someone has to go outside the perimeter.  Explosives?  Makes little pieces that will still be trying to kill someone.  Maybe bring back roll-your-own black powder and adapting/manufacturing something to use it - long gun, cannon, etc.

Perimeter defense against an army that can only be killed one way is a bitch.

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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2013, 09:46:12 AM »
The countryside is LOADED with things that they're not making use of to fortify their little slice of heaven...

Electrical transmission lines can be used as cables to stay the fence poles.

Railroad rails can be used as brace bars. They are also pretty damned effective armor when alternately stacked and used to protect against non walkers with guns.

The cargo containers is a good one I hadn't thought about.

I'd at least use several in the inner yard to build a watch platform and tower.

As others have mentioned, there's construction equipment EVERYWHERE. Dig some damned walker traps. The pointy sticks around the gates are a good idea, maybe one of the first ones they've had.

There's got to be gazillions of concrete blocks and loads of cement that is still viable all over the countryside that could also be used to supplement the fence.

And instead of letting them pile up against the fence every day, they should be out building a stand off barrier of... pointy sticks...
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2013, 12:39:16 AM »
And instead of letting them pile up against the fence every day, they should be out building a stand off barrier of... pointy sticks...

The pointy sticks would work, for a while.  Until they're full of still moving walkers.  I ain't volunteering to go out and clean off the sticks.

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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #87 on: October 25, 2013, 02:24:51 AM »
Give me TIKIWIKI and a scavengeable world, and I'll build a solar powered zed squisher that weighs 10 tons, moves on tracks, has an armored cabin, a 50 mile range and returns home to recharge.  Once I have it manually controlled, it's just a matter of time until I make it run off remote or even automate it to just run lat/long coordinates via GPS, unmanned.

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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #88 on: October 25, 2013, 06:25:31 AM »
I thought the rats were from the little girl feeding her pet walker, Nick.
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #89 on: October 25, 2013, 06:50:07 AM »
I thought the rats were from the little girl feeding her pet walker, Nick.

That's what I thought as well.

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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #90 on: October 25, 2013, 12:25:13 PM »
Give me TIKIWIKI and a scavengeable world, and I'll build a solar powered zed squisher that weighs 10 tons, moves on tracks, has an armored cabin, a 50 mile range and returns home to recharge.  Once I have it manually controlled, it's just a matter of time until I make it run off remote or even automate it to just run lat/long coordinates via GPS, unmanned.



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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #91 on: October 25, 2013, 12:27:50 PM »
put this on the end of the mousetrap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dn8xKH7afo
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2013, 09:36:03 PM »
I thought the rats were from the little girl feeding her pet walker, Nick.

Hadn't thought of that.

Still convinced the sick ones were murdered.
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2013, 09:41:40 PM »
Hadn't thought of that.

Still convinced the sick ones were murdered.
I'm thinking the Asian kid,(It's ok, everyone's a kid to me), protecting his now pregnant wife. The guy is undercover hardcore.

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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #94 on: October 28, 2013, 09:53:49 AM »
Carol you crazy bitch! 
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #95 on: October 28, 2013, 09:57:14 AM »
Carol you crazy bitch! 

Too bad it was already too late.
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #96 on: October 28, 2013, 10:04:55 AM »
And chalk the charger up to being a bad apocalyptic choice of vehicle.  4x4 is a must. 
And that sea of undead at the school....holy *expletive deleted*ck.    :O
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #97 on: October 28, 2013, 10:32:17 AM »
they need an icecream truck full of piglets to draw off the mega swarm at 20 miles out
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #98 on: October 28, 2013, 10:49:54 AM »
they need an icecream truck full of piglets to draw off the mega swarm at 20 miles out

Major distraction time for sure.  A big enough explosion a few miles away would get them shuffling off.
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Re: Walking dead season 4
« Reply #99 on: October 28, 2013, 11:18:58 AM »
Carol you crazy bitch! 

Well,  for once, I actually saw THAT coming..... [popcorn]
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