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What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« on: January 20, 2013, 05:56:11 AM »
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Along with the gas pistol, Enimehmedov was also armed with two knives.

A pellet gun?  :facepalm:

Either he did not know the difference between that and a real gun, or because of gun control laws it was the only thing a law-abiding assassin could purchase.

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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 06:30:25 AM »
Quote from: vaskidmark on January 20, 2013, 05:56:11 AM
http://tinyurl.com/aqg39c7

A pellet gun?  :facepalm:

Either he did not know the difference between that and a real gun, or because of gun control laws it was the only thing a law-abiding assassin could purchase.

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I'm guessing it's not a pellet gun, but a blank firing pistol, loaded either with blanks (duh) or tear gas or pepper spray ammunition.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 09:14:58 AM »
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Dogan and the gunman wrestled on stage before security raced to apprehend the assailant, amid loud boos from the crowd, according to The Sun.

were they booing because he failed, or the wrestling did not live up to wwf standards?
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 09:49:07 AM »
Apparently, the security people gave him a really good beating until the cops arrived. Or kicking, I guess.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 10:07:15 AM »
The video made it look like every politician in the room wanted to get a few hits and kicks in.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 10:09:49 AM »
Some security. As close as the assailant got, he could have used one of his knives. Sheesh.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 10:36:01 AM »
Quote from: Viking on January 20, 2013, 06:30:25 AM
I'm guessing it's not a pellet gun, but a blank firing pistol, loaded either with blanks (duh) or tear gas or pepper spray ammunition.

Probably with tear gas cartridges. These are pretty popular in much of Europe.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 11:00:25 AM »
Quote from: SADShooter on January 20, 2013, 10:09:49 AM
Some security. As close as the assailant got, he could have used one of his knives. Sheesh.

Yep
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 11:07:23 AM »
Quote from: SADShooter on January 20, 2013, 10:09:49 AM
Some security. As close as the assailant got, he could have used one of his knives. Sheesh.

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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 12:08:18 PM »
Anyone have footage of John Wilkes Booth? =D
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2013, 12:32:44 PM »
Quote from: CNYCacher on January 20, 2013, 11:07:23 AM
Successful assasin is successful warning: actual death

But he didn't have a gun! I was told by our superior media members and politicians that "gun violence" is the only violence that we need to worry about... so if we ban guns people can still die?
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2013, 12:36:44 PM »
Quote from: CNYCacher on January 20, 2013, 11:07:23 AM
Successful assasin is successful warning: actual death

That was hard core. According to the comments th assasin wrote a samurai poem on his cell wall then hanged himself.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2013, 12:45:13 PM »
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The Bourgas native has two prior convictions, including causing bodily harm in 2006 and drug possession in 2010, the Sofia Globe reports.

That is why he couldn't have a real gun.  He is a felon.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2013, 12:49:34 PM »
In another forum, I said I thought this looked fabricated to get media coverage and sympathy for the person he attempted to 'assassinate' - and that was before this pellet gun information!  It just smells ... odd... to me.

Quote from: vaskidmark on January 20, 2013, 05:56:11 AM
http://tinyurl.com/aqg39c7

A pellet gun?  :facepalm:

Either he did not know the difference between that and a real gun, or because of gun control laws it was the only thing a law-abiding assassin could purchase.

stay safe.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2013, 01:13:28 PM »
I've seen UK television shows which outright claim there is a thriving criminal market for turning airsofts & replicas into functioning firearms. Who knows what this doofus thought he had.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2013, 01:32:32 PM »
Quote from: SADShooter on January 20, 2013, 01:13:28 PM
I've seen UK television shows which outright claim there is a thriving criminal market for turning airsofts & replicas into functioning firearms. Who knows what this doofus thought he had.

As silly as that sounds, wasn't there actually an airsoft which contained what turned out to be a passable AR lower?
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2013, 01:53:15 PM »
Quote from: CNYCacher on January 20, 2013, 01:32:32 PM
As silly as that sounds, wasn't there actually an airsoft which contained what turned out to be a passable AR lower?

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=10795

This one, made by a company called WE, supposedly.

The old Fox news article about it:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06/exclusive-toy-gun-sold-easily-turned-real-thing/

I've never seen one, but supposedly the trigger group sits a bit too low as-is.  Takes some jiggering to put a real trigger/sear into it.  Big difference is that, and a small hole in the receiver near the pistol grip, feeding to a motor (or battery?) housed in the pistol grip.  That hole is a non-issue. 

Upper pins supposedly perfectly line up with a true upper.  Rear buffer housing lines up perfectly for a true rear buffer tube.  Magwell is dimensionally accurate.

I'm tempted to buy one and "build" myself an AR.
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Re: What not to bring to an assassination attempt
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2013, 02:03:27 PM »
Oops.  The WE model I linked earlier is a gearbox model, not a gas blowback model.

It's the gas blowback models that are convertible, supposedly.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_482&products_id=9461

I don't see any more WE branded ones that are metallic receivers with gas blowback action.  Not sure on the other brands.  But the metal receiver ones are quite a bit more expensive than the plastic receiver ones.


ETA:  The Inokatsu M4 GBB rifle looks amazing.  Literally, all I think it needs to convert to a true rifle is a trigger kit, proper buffer spring of correct strength, a correct bolt to replace the aluminum one in the BCG along with firing pin (might need a full BCG if there are other differences), a 5.56 barrel, gas block, and gas tube.  But, it's $900+ everywhere I look.
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