OF COURSE gay marriage views won't be cause to oppress Christians...

[makattak]

http://radio.foxnews.com/2011/08/18/teacher-opposed-to-gay-marriage-could-be-fired/comment-page-1/

Oh, wait, no. It's ALREADY being used to punish people for opposing liberal views of "marriage".

This is what we know is happening and will happen as the gay "marriage" proponents use the force of government to make their choice of lifestyle accepted. It's not a slippery slope argument because it is already happening.

[wmenorr67]

And of course no sign of the ACLU stepping in and helping him either.  Damn hypocrits.

[brimic]

And of course no sign of the ACLU stepping in and helping him either.  Damn hypocrits.

Hypocrits? No. They are pretty clear on what their agenda is. Of course they'll always throw in the canard about how they once drepresented the KKK for violation of free speach- as if that makes them a noble organization.

[MicroBalrog]

Being fired by your employer is a violation of your rights now?

How is this different - if at all - to schools firing teachers because they find out they used to work in the adult film industry, or because they had posed in photographs with firearms (both actually done before in the United States)?

(besides, the more public school teachers are fired, the better)

[wmenorr67]

Being fired by your employer is a violation of your rights now?

How is this different - if at all - to schools firing teachers because they find out they used to work in the adult film industry, or because they had posed in photographs with firearms (both actually done before in the United States)?

(besides, the more public school teachers are fired, the better)

To fire someone isn't violating their rights.  Firing someone for using their rights is a violation of their rights.

[makattak]

Being fired by your employer is a violation of your rights now?

How is this different - if at all - to schools firing teachers because they find out they used to work in the adult film industry, or because they had posed in photographs with firearms (both actually done before in the United States)?

(besides, the more public school teachers are fired, the better)

If the schools were private, it would not be an issue. In this case, however, the schools are a branch of the government and that government is enforcing politically correct morality in violation of two first amendment rights.

Unless it's ok for other localities to start requiring membership in a local baptist church before you can be employed with their government.

[MicroBalrog]

1. Clearly we must privatize the schools.

2. Yes. This is an ongoing issue with the schools. This is not unlike the bans in the 1930's on schools teaching evolution. Schools will forever be used to push the agenda of whoever controls the schools.

[makattak]

1. Clearly we must privatize the schools.

Of course we must. However, libertarian-types seem to think it more important to attack their allies in getting government out of schooling and other areas in order to promote gay marriage and marijuana.

And then further curse their ostensible allies when they point out that in the current state of the government, the force of the government will be used against those with opposing views.

[roo_ster]

This issue is similar to the libertarian open-borders argument, where they wave away problems like illegal alien consumption of public services because the services themselves are not in accord with the COTUS. 

The rest of us, who live in reality-land and pay taxes, would prefer the burdens of these illegitimate services not to rise, even as we work to eliminate those services.

Oddly enough, the libertarian types seem to rate gay marriage higher than free expression.  Frankly, I think these "libertarians" are just folks who want gov't to subsidize their deviance and see no problem using the force of gov't to get their way.

[AZRedhawk44]

I propose we auto-lock any thread dealing with gay marriage.

I don't get the recent fetish with it.   

[MicroBalrog]

Of course we must. However, libertarian-types seem to think it more important to attack their allies in getting government out of schooling and other areas in order to promote gay marriage and marijuana.

And yet I do not remember ever starting a gay marriage thread on this forum.

As for marijuana... your comment would be amusing if were not so sad.

[HankB]

If the schools were private, it would not be an issue. (emphasis added) In this case, however, the schools are a branch of the government and that government is enforcing politically correct morality in violation of two first amendment rights.

This.

[makattak]

And yet I do not remember ever starting a gay marriage thread on this forum.

You are not the only libertarian-type on the forum. (Though you may be the only Libertarian.)

[Perd Hapley]

I propose we auto-lock any thread dealing with gay marriage.

I don't get the recent fetish with it.  

Says the guy who's been pushing the issue the most, recently.

[AZRedhawk44]

Says the guy who's been pushing the issue the most, recently.

Cite, please.

[MicroBalrog]

You are not the only libertarian-type on the forum. (Though you may be the only Libertarian.)

I am a Libertarian?

[makattak]

I am a Libertarian?

I had thought you started the Libertarian Party in Israel. Am I remembering incorrectly?

[MicroBalrog]

I had thought you started the Libertarian Party in Israel. Am I remembering incorrectly?

I demand to be given a citizenship in this miraculous Israel in which I am the leader of the Libertarian Party.

I assume it is also the Israel where we never negotiate with terrorists and where every man carries a rifle at all times?

[RoadKingLarry]

I propose we auto-lock any thread dealing with gay marriage.

I don't get the recent fetish with it.   

But it's so entertaining

[Perd Hapley]

I had thought you started the Libertarian Party in Israel. Am I remembering incorrectly?

If I remember rightly, he started a Lib. club at his ooniversity, and helped organize the Tel Aviv Tea Party.

[makattak]

I demand to be given a citizenship in this miraculous Israel in which I am the leader of the Libertarian Party.

I assume it is also the Israel where we never negotiate with terrorists and where every man carries a rifle at all times?

No, but it is the Israel where 3 people showed up to your first meeting. (I assume that's much like the Libertarian party in the US, too.)

[makattak]

If I remember rightly, he started a Lib. club at his ooniversity, and helped organize the Tel Aviv Tea Party.

Aha! So I'm not the only one remembering something something Libertarian, somethig something complete and Micro.

[MicroBalrog]

Libertarian club at university.

Israeli Libertarian Facebook thing.

And a range of various lolbertarian events and stuff.

[Perd Hapley]

Cite, please.

Sure. Bogie decided to make it an issue, and you put in quite a bit more than your two cents worth.
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=30928.0

Then p5guy raised the issue, and you ran with it there, as well.
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=30966.0

Now I didn't say that you raised the issue, and maybe "pushing the issue" was not quite the right terminology, either, but you've been just as interested in it as anyone else. Maybe Carberry gives you a run for the money, but you've been one of the most prolific proponents of homosexual marriage on the board lately.


ALL THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, COMMA, I don't see why it's been such an issue lately, either.

[AZRedhawk44]

Sure. Bogie decided to make it an issue, and you put in quite a bit more than your two cents worth.
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=30928.0

Then p5guy raised the issue, and you ran with it there, as well.
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=30966.0

Now I didn't say that you raised the issue, and maybe "pushing the issue" was not quite the right terminology, either, but you've been just as interested in it as anyone else. Maybe Carberry gives you a run for the money, but you've been one of the most prolific proponents of homosexual marriage on the board lately.


ALL THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, COMMA, I don't see why it's been such an issue lately, either.

I'm not interested in it at all.

I'm not the one bringing it up in the context of funny 'Birther threads.

To me, it's a non-issue and distraction.

"Prolific proponent..." nope.  I really don't care, one way or another.  I just hate seeing the "scapegoat causes" getting used again and again for the last 20+ years as the bread and circus diversions for the masses to get duped into allowing status quo to continue every election.