Author Topic: Teaching for change: how to talk to your kids about Trayvon Martin (Read 2040 times)

Balog · « **on:** August 14, 2014, 03:01:57 PM »

I pity the poor children who this will be inflicted on.

http://www.teachingforchange.org/teaching-about-trayvon-martin-with-young-children

makattak · « **Reply #1 on:** August 14, 2014, 03:05:45 PM »

Wow.

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If they don’t know or have a lot of misinformation about what happened, you could use a description like this one:

... to ensure they get as much misinformation as possible.

It's always a trip to go into the rabbit hole of the minds of lefties.

(Edit: Noticed I hit the button for code rather than quote. Never used that command before.)

Balog · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2014, 03:08:02 PM »

America was dead the day the progressives/socialists/communists got in charge of education. Rot in hell John Dewey.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 14, 2014, 03:11:33 PM »

Parenting for People Who Can't Be Honest and Straight With Their Kids

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2014, 03:26:34 PM »

MechAg94 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2014, 03:38:26 PM »

If they were concerned about mis-information as they mention in the first couple items, they would use a picture of Trayvon as he looked before he died, not as a little kid.

MillCreek · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2014, 03:56:18 PM »

Jeezy Petes.

roo_ster · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2014, 05:01:25 PM »

Got it covered:
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2Zy6mIyGm

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2014, 05:11:16 PM »

Quote from: roo_ster on August 14, 2014, 05:01:25 PM

Got it covered:
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2Zy6mIyGm

Damn you. I am not sure even I can post that to Facebook but I know I am gonna

brimic · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2014, 05:41:05 PM »

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4. Explain: Millions of people all over the U.S. are sad about and thinking about Trayvon Martin and other people who were hurt or killed unfairly. Hoodie Day is our school’s way to say how we feel.

LOL. Explain to the kids that there are millions more who don't lump trayvon in with 'people who are hurt or killed unfairly.'

Explain to the kids that there are millions more who prioritize their personal security and the security of their family over the feelz of liberal race pimps.

Ah, wait, I already have done all of that- why do I need public skool teachers for?

Boomhauer · « **Reply #10 on:** August 14, 2014, 07:06:00 PM »

Oh yes, I do plan on teaching my kids...

Teaching them to police their brass and unass the scene.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #11 on:** August 14, 2014, 07:15:13 PM »

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Parenting for People Who ~~Can't Be Honest and Straight With Their Kids~~ Want to Live in the Past, in Which We Had Some Excuse For Not Knowing That Martin Was Killed Legally, and That Zimmerman Was Not a Racist (Though We Would Understand If He Is a Racist, At This Point)

SteveS · « **Reply #12 on:** August 14, 2014, 08:13:12 PM »

Quote from: Balog on August 14, 2014, 03:01:57 PM

I pity the poor children who this will be inflicted on.

http://www.teachingforchange.org/teaching-about-trayvon-martin-with-young-children

I agree, but fortunately this looks like some fringe, lefty advocacy group. Never heard of them until now.

Northwoods · « **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2014, 09:32:23 AM »

Quote from: roo_ster on August 14, 2014, 05:01:25 PM

Got it covered:
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2Zy6mIyGm

Saw that around the time it first came out. He does a pretty decent job in points 1-5. Point 6 he starts to lose it, and by Point 10 he's well and truly off the rails. E.g. in 10g he advocates looking much close at the character of black politicians than non-black politicians before voting for them. The hell do I care what skin color a politician has? They're all of suspect character just by virtue of being a politician.

Point 11 is another example of abuse of statistics. Given the exposure I've had to black people I'd say that those stats fall in the category of generally GIGO types of studies. Most IQ tests don't even measure IQ, but rather the measure knowledge. IQ is supposed to be a measurement of the capacity for learning. IME blacks have just as much capacity for learning. That the average knowledge held by blacks supposedly is lower than for non-blacks is more a reflection on a variety of social factors than raw intelligence. Besides which, from I see of a lot of white kids these days I'm so sure that gap in knowledge still exists.

Boomhauer · « **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2014, 10:04:06 AM »

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That the average knowledge held by blacks supposedly is lower than for non-blacks is more a reflection on a variety of social factors than raw intelligence.

Black kids that want to better themselves in school and go on to better things are rediculed by their peers as "actin' white"

Northwoods · « **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2014, 10:13:36 AM »

Quote from: Boomhauer on August 16, 2014, 10:04:06 AM

Black kids that want to better themselves in school and go on to better things are rediculed by their peers as "actin' white"

That would be one of the "variety of social factors" I alluded to.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2014, 01:04:07 PM »

Quote from: sumpnz on August 16, 2014, 10:13:36 AM

That would be one of the "variety of social factors" I alluded to.

The bottom line result is the same no matter what kinda excuses you throw in front

Northwoods · « **Reply #17 on:** August 16, 2014, 02:18:41 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 16, 2014, 01:04:07 PM

The bottom line result is the same no matter what kinda excuses you throw in front

So are you suggesting that black kids are of inferior IQ?

Ignorance is one thing. Unintelligent is another.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #18 on:** August 16, 2014, 09:18:55 PM »

I am saying the end result of the 2 is the same. And it's often willful ignorance which is extra special

MechAg94 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2014, 10:09:14 PM »

Quote from: sumpnz on August 16, 2014, 02:18:41 PM

So are you suggesting that black kids are of inferior IQ?

Ignorance is one thing. Unintelligent is another.

I think the thought is that through social/cultural pressure, they are lowering their own IQ.

I recall that Walter Williams and others have mentioned multiple examples of efforts to pull black kids out of that and out of the public school system and had them performing at high levels. Those efforts are resisted heavily from various groups.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2014, 09:50:09 AM »

I talked to my kids about Treyvon Martin. It was a great illustration on assault, possibility of grave bodily harm, disparity of force, self defense, and why daddy carries a gun.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2014, 02:23:39 PM »

Quote from: jamisjockey on August 17, 2014, 09:50:09 AM

I talked to my kids about Treyvon Martin. It was a great illustration on assault, possibility of grave bodily harm, disparity of force, self defense, and why daddy carries a gun.

And why Daddy doesn't start swingin' at strangers, without a really good reason.

Nick1911 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2014, 02:32:26 PM »

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Trayvon Martin was an African-American teenager who was walking home from the store. A man named Zimmerman believed that Trayvon looked “suspicious” because he has a lot of stereotypes (wrong ideas) about young Black males. He thought Trayvon did not belong in that neighborhood, even though some of Trayvon’s family lived there. The man decided to take the law into his own hands‒even though the police told him not to‒and he shot Trayvon. This was a terrible thing to do. It is a tragedy.

This conversation gets interesting when the kid asks, "So, what happened to Zimmerman?"

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Author Topic: Teaching for change: how to talk to your kids about Trayvon Martin (Read 2040 times)