COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[DittoHead]

You also saw tons of images of NYC residents going outside and going shopping every day, because  I guess it didn't occur to them to buy a week's worth of stuff in one trip. Also I saw multiple videos that the urban yute cop punching fad remained ongoing. So much for social distancing.

In the meantime, NYC celebrities, pundits, etc. were denigrating the deplorable rubes in flyover country for not isolating because their cell phone data showed them driving 10 miles to the store, and they even ragged on that lone paddleboarder in San Diego.

Much like that cell phone data, I don't think you can make too many assumptions based off those images.

Urban areas, like New York, Detroit, and New Orleans, have been disproportionately impacted by the coronavirus with some of the highest death rates in the country. Though the death rate in the US is currently much higher in urban areas than non-metropolitan areas, there are signs that the virus has begun to spread through rural areas. Two-thirds of rural communities now have at least one confirmed case of COVID-19. Despite recent increases in rural communities, urban residents are almost twice as likely as Americans living in rural areas to know someone who has been infected with COVID-19. Americans living in rural areas are less concerned about their family members or themselves becoming infected than those in urban areas (64 percent vs. 71 percent). Urban residents are more likely to have stock piled supplies (39 percent v. 28 percent), and are significantly more pessimistic about when life will return to normal in the US.

[charby]

Yeah, you can't close the hardware stores or the grocery stores, and if those are the only places open, that's where people are going to go. Or even if they're staying home, when you tell a bunch of people to stay home, they're going to start doing all those projects they've been putting off.

Maybe we should be glad all those people are shopping. If not, who knows how many more millions would be laid off by now?

Still should be 1 person per cart/trolley/buggy as suggested.

[charby]

Iowa governor just said of yesterday we have a 39% recovery rate of those infected.

Another packing plant was deemed an outbreak this weekend, at a beef kill plant in Tama, IA.

[cordex]

Much like that cell phone data, I don't think you can make too many assumptions based off those images.

Not sure I'd make too many assumptions based on that poll.
I'm guessing that "stock piled supplies" means something very, very different to a NYC apartment dweller and someone living in rural America.

[Perd Hapley]

Still should be 1 person per cart/trolley/buggy as suggested.

So they're recommending people not shop in groups or pairs? I have not heard of that.

[DittoHead]

I'm guessing that "stock piled supplies" means something very, very different to a NYC apartment dweller and someone living in rural America.

True, as you mentioned previously, a lot of urban dwellings are not conducive to stockpiling. What an inner Detroit resident considers well stocked might look mostly depleted by rural Nebraska standards.
However, that poll indicates that at least some city dwellers are capable and trying to be better prepared and the concept of buying a week's worth of food is not beyond their intellect.

[charby]

So they're recommending people not shop in groups or pairs? I have not heard of that.

Our governor has recommended it, many stores have it posted on their doors (1 person per cart, also no one 16 years age or younger allowed either). Not sure if anyone is really enforcing it if it's posted on the door.

[WLJ]

To many inner city dwellers the concept of keeping any food on hand beyond chips, soft drinks and beer is almost alien to them since nearly 99%+ of their food is fast food. The refrigerator is where they throw the leftovers to rot.

[WLJ]

OMG!
Trump's name is the check!
We're all going to die!

First look at stimulus checks with President’s name
https://www.wave3.com/2020/04/20/first-look-stimulus-checks-with-presidents-name/

[Hawkmoon]

So they're recommending people not shop in groups or pairs? I have not heard of that.

I'm a widower, so I have no choice. If I need to go to the supermarket, I go to the supermarket. My friends in the area who have families have established one person in each family as the designated shopper.

[BlueStarLizzard]

No, when they talk about stockpiling supplies they're talking about this specific incident.

These are all the asshats that went out in the first week and bought all the TP, messing up the supply chains. I don't believe for two seconds these are people that normally have more than a few containers of leftover take out going bad and maybe some orange juice in the fridge under normal circumstances.

Rural dwellers didn't stockpile because they ALREADY had stockpiles. It isn't an indicator over who took this more seriously, since rural folks didn't need the supplies.  

[BlueStarLizzard]

So they're recommending people not shop in groups or pairs? I have not heard of that.

That's been the thing. Even I know that (and I don't even watch the news)

Of course, nobody seems to pay attention too it...

Although, I can understand when you have single parents with their kids, though. They don't exactly have a lot of options for child care when doing errands.

[charby]

That's been the thing. Even I know that (and I don't even watch the news)

Of course, nobody seems to pay attention too it...

Although, I can understand when you have single parents with their kids, though. They don't exactly have a lot of options for child care when doing errands.

Most chain stores that have household necessities do have online ordering and curbside pickup. I know there are some rural areas that just have a local grocery store/hardware store, but most the majority of the population has a Mao-Mart not that far away. There is no excuse for single parents with a smart phone not to shop that way until this passes. You ought to see the arguments on a north Iowa facebook group with single hood-rat mommas bitching they can't take their kids shopping with them at Mao-Mart or local grocery store. They got facebook, they have internet, they can do curbside pickup.

[Ben]

Not sure I'd make too many assumptions based on that poll.
I'm guessing that "stock piled supplies" means something very, very different to a NYC apartment dweller and someone living in rural America.

Yeah, I'm guessing that depending on who is reporting, "stockpiling" has many definitions at this point. When I first started looking at homes here, I was surprised at the large pantries almost everywhere, including the home I purchased, and it seems for most people here, pantries aren't "stockpiling spaces", but rather where normally (for rural living) kept food goes. Stockpiling is the year's supply of canned stuff and water people have in their basements (lots of Mormons here).

Went shopping in Eastern Oregon today. Staples was pretty empty but had a sign out front listing all the "panic stuff" they had in stock. Lots of toilet paper, so I guess as mentioned earlier in the thread, people don't think of TP and office supplies. Tractor Supply had their usual small crowd. Home Depot was crazy. it was like there was a big sale going or something. The store was packed and the garden section was especially packed. I contributed to that as I didn't want to wait any longer for the rest of my garden stuff. I'm at the point where I'll just let my superior Aryan genes handle the virus and create antibodies. 

[Jamisjockey]

It appears that we gave a $3.7 million grant to the Wuhan lab likely responsible for the virus release. It happened under Obama, so it won't get a lot of coverage. Not that it necessarily should, but I think we know that if it happened under Trump's watch the MSM would make it the culprit of the virus release.

https://twitchy.com/brads-313037/2020/04/19/ummm-the-wuhan-viral-lab-suspected-of-releasing-the-covid-19-virus-was-funded-by-the-obama-administration/

When was the report that they weren't operating at level 4 like they should be, 2018?

[charby]

Another packing plant in Iowa just reported an outbreak, Prestage pork kill in Eagle Grove, IA.

[Perd Hapley]

On the stockpiling thing, it stands to reason urbanites would be more likely to stockpile FOR THIS SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCE. Urban areas are where the worst and earliest outbreaks are, and where police (or Karens) are (apparently, at least in some areas) actually hounding people to stay at home.

Also, some of you seem to think "urban" means poor, or uninterested in cooking. Not sure why you would think that. FWIW, I assume they were counting the wider metro areas as "urban," not just those who live within city limits.

[Perd Hapley]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/comedian-patton-oswalt-mocks-anti-shutdown-protesters-recalls-anne-frank

Sounds familiar.

“Rich fat guy sitting on a mountain of cash tells you jackasses to suck it up,” tweeted Gutfeld.

“Even richer a**-faced failed comedian who’s reduced to being the ‘wacky guy’ on geriatric GOP propaganda network would like to explain the nuance of ‘ironic swastikas’ to you,” responded Oswalt.

I like how Oswalt claims Gutfeld is "richer," but he's also a "failed comedian." Of course, that pales to the irony of him calling Gutfeld ugly...

[Jamisjockey]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/comedian-patton-oswalt-mocks-anti-shutdown-protesters-recalls-anne-frank

Sounds familiar.

I like how Oswalt claims Gutfeld is "richer," but he's also a "failed comedian." Of course, that pales to the irony of him calling Gutfeld ugly...

Wasn't it that long ago they were crying about isolation from their mansions? 

The media made sure to cherry pick protesters complaining about freedom and not being able to get haircuts.  Didn't bother finding anyone with businesses closed or not getting paychecks.

[Perd Hapley]

Hey now, that bald patch on the side of my head was not easy to live with!

[MillCreek]

The data analytics team at Corporate is now estimating that after things return to 'normal', our patient census will be only up to 75% or so one year out from that point.  This will likely apply to many healthcare systems across the country, which means that healthcare unemployment is going to increase and stay that way.

[Jim147]

ConAgra in Mo is shutofor at least 20 days.

[BobR]

The data analytics team at Corporate is now estimating that after things return to 'normal', our patient census will be only up to 75% or so one year out from that point.  This will likely apply to many healthcare systems across the country, which means that healthcare unemployment is going to increase and stay that way.

Hmmm, does that mean 25% of needed procedures, etc won't be done or that prior to Wu-Flu 25% of all procedures were unnecessary?   


bob

[MillCreek]

Hmmm, does that mean 25% of needed procedures, etc won't be done or that prior to Wu-Flu 25% of all procedures were unnecessary?   


bob

On that note, we are wondering where are all the MI, stroke, appendicitis, and diabetic crisis patients are who used to be in our ER?  We are seeing drops all over the region, so they are not going to other facilities.  Are people dying at home or gutting it out?  What have you seen at the VA ER?

[Jim147]

Where are the regular flu cases?