COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[MillCreek]

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not

A tale of two cities and COVID

[Perd Hapley]

Restaurants fail all the time, but usually not all at once.

[Jim147]

Anouther Smithfield plant has closed down

[Ben]

As I read about more and more of these incidents, it's becoming mind-boggling how little common sense some of these authorities have. These have become excellent examples of "letter of the law" vs "spirit of the law". Alternately known as, "The law is an ass".

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/04/27/just-asinine-ben-shapiro-shares-infuriating-story-in-thread-about-police-harassing-elderly-couple-on-a-beach-with-lockdown-rules/

[RoadKingLarry]

That kind of stuff makes my tinfoil hat start warming up. Are the lock down restrictions about keeping people safe or are they about seeing how far they can push a docile public with draconian restrictions on their liberty?

[Ben]

That kind of stuff makes my tinfoil hat start warming up. Are the lock down restrictions about keeping people safe or are they about seeing how far they can push a docile public with draconian restrictions on their liberty?

I tend to apply Occam's razor and just attribute it to both stupidity and power tripping. Yet, it does show both how far they can push and how much people will stand.

Also who the quislings are. I see a lot of the urban "anti-protestors" continue to yell about the dumb redneck protestors all getting the virus because they want a haircut (seems to be the most popular MSM reason), not because these lockdowns have kept them from earning money. The post analysis of all this will be interesting. while we can argue that shutting down crowded venues like bars where people congregate shoulder to shoulder on Friday nights was a smart move, a lot of people and businesses got caught in that riptide.

[RoadKingLarry]

Yeah, this makes lots of sense, you can take a boat out but you can't fish from it because COVID-19.
 

https://www.foxnews.com/great-outdoors/coroanvirus-washington-state-anglers-fishing-ban-protest

[230RN]

Ben remarked,

"I tend to apply Occam's razor and just attribute it to both stupidity and power tripping. Yet, it does show both how far they can push and how much people will stand."

Related to that:

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience has shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

Terry

[TechMan]

Interesting.  If true, I am curious how long they have been doing it.

According to the linked article...10 years.

[RocketMan]

That kind of stuff makes my tinfoil hat start warming up. Are the lock down restrictions about keeping people safe or are they about seeing how far they can push a docile public with draconian restrictions on their liberty?

Like Ben, I also tend to apply Occam's Razor to the issue.  As he noted, it's mostly power tripping and stupid doing as stupid does.
But I also believe some (hopefully few) politicians and government officials with totalitarian tendencies are taking notes about how the public is reacting to the lockdowns.  They are also watching law enforcement closely to see whether they willingly enforce the more blatantly unconstitutional restrictions that have been placed on us.  And as most of us know, a number of LEOs have gone along with the program quite willingly.

[charby]

56k deaths in the US so far from Covid-19

[Perd Hapley]

Think of how many lives might have been saved, if we'd banned fishing a long time ago.

[charby]

Think of how many lives might have been saved, if we'd banned fishing a long time ago.

Not banned in Iowa, can't do anything about it being in other states because I'm not a resident nor fish there.

[Ron]

56k deaths in the US so far from Covid-19

Bullshit

[charby]

Bullshit

What I heard in the news at noon, if you can show me a non "Rush/Beck/Jones/any pundit/TMZ/WND/etc" news article that shows differently, I will believe you.

[Perd Hapley]

What I heard in the news at noon, if you can show me a non "Rush/Beck/Jones/any pundit/TMZ/WND/etc" news article that shows differently, I will believe you.

I think he's talking about deaths being counted, where Covid may not have been the actual cause.

The fishing thing wasn't aimed at you, it just came after you chronologically.

[Ron]

What I heard in the news at noon, if you can show me a non "Rush/Beck/Jones/any pundit/TMZ/WND/etc" news article that shows differently, I will believe you.

See my video in the facebook group from the woman running the covid 19 response in the state, Illinois isn't even lying about what they are doing. They spelled out clearly that all people who die while infected regardless of real reason of death will be considered a covid 19 death if the virus is present. The video is right from the horsefaces mouth.

The numbers are bullshit.

My friend Chuck was coded as a covid-19 death despite the comorbidities of a smoker with COPD, in his 80's, taking a fall sending him to the hospital and being diagnosed with pneumonia.

[zxcvbob]

They *have* to lie -- pad the numbers to make up for the undiagnosed cases.   

[RocketMan]

They *have* to lie -- pad the numbers to make up for the undiagnosed cases.   

They have to lie to pad the numbers because they know their models were nonsense.  They used the output of the models to scare the crap out of everybody and justify the lockdowns that destroyed the economy.  It's ass covering time.

[Ben]

I'd have to dig for the article, but I'm pretty sure even the commie pinko Idaho Statesman had an article about "COVID related" definitions for death as COVID deaths. I.e., had a heart attack but were also asymptomatic with COVID? COVID death.

[Ron]

One can stipulate that the China Virus is a very contagious nasty bug and still believe the numbers are BS.

That the numbers are BS isn't even open for debate.

They told the public the truth buried in hours of panic now! briefings.

[Hawkmoon]

Think of how many lives might have been saved, if we'd banned fishing a long time ago.

"PISCINE LIVES MATTER!"

[charby]

See my video in the facebook group from the woman running the covid 19 response in the state, Illinois isn't even lying about what they are doing. They spelled out clearly that all people who die while infected regardless of real reason of death will be considered a covid 19 death if the virus is present. The video is right from the horsefaces mouth.

The numbers are bullshit.

My friend Chuck was coded as a covid-19 death despite the comorbidities of a smoker with COPD, in his 80's, taking a fall sending him to the hospital and being diagnosed with pneumonia.

I thought that video was supposed to be a joke, well it still fits with pundit/not a credible source category.

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Ben remarked,

"I tend to apply Occam's razor and just attribute it to both stupidity and power tripping. Yet, it does show both how far they can push and how much people will stand."

Related to that:

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience has shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

Terry

I think those propagating the suffering are about to find out there is a limit. Once that limit is reached, the suffering won't simply be held at a plateau but will be relieved with extreme prejudice. The last time that limit was reached, there was a revolution and the freest country on the planet was born. It's about time for a rebirth of freedom. I think they forget that we are still armed.

Those in charge have failed to assure that revolution doesn't become necessary. I believe those in charge have forgotten they serve at our pleasure not their's. I do not foresee a peaceful end to the tyranny we face.

Woody

[Ron]

I thought that video was supposed to be a joke, well it still fits with pundit/not a credible source category.

https://www.facebook.com/drericnepute/posts/2625920074322788