COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[WLJ]

Essential workers are "disproportionately minorities"?

[dogmush]

Essential workers are "disproportionately minorities"?

Essential Workers is Lib-Speak for "The poor folks that bring us the things". So yes.

I really pissed off my liberal family when I opined this fall that the US hadn't had a shutdown. The US had rich people staying home while poor folks brought them stuff.  Apparently that wasn't a mirror they wanted to look to closely at.

[Ben]

Essential Workers is Lib-Speak for "The poor folks that bring us the things". So yes.

I really pissed off my liberal family when I opined this fall that the US hadn't had a shutdown. The US had rich people staying home while poor folks brought them stuff.  Apparently that wasn't a mirror they wanted to look to closely at.

You could even change that to "privileged people". A Fed GS-9 who gets to stay home and get paid might not be rich, but they still have more "privilege" than the local Walmart cashier showing up for work every day for low pay and a 1000% greater chance of getting infected by the bioweapon.

[fifth_column]

Is it just me or does "leveling the playing field" sound a bit like "removing those with a particular skin color?"  Seriously, am I way off base?

[WLJ]

Is it just me or does "leveling the playing field" sound a bit like "removing those with a particular skin color?"  Seriously, am I way off base?

I've noticed it too
Some of the more radical rhetoric coming out of the left lately has been hinting more and more is that if whites just disappeared, or at the very least bow down to their POC superiors and masters,  the world would be much better place. Much of it worded scarcely similar to Nazi propaganda.  

But I think in the above case "level the playing field" they really mean whites giving everything they stole and then some from blacks back in the form of $$$$$$$$.

[Ron]

Let's YOU and HIM fight!

Who is stoking, suggesting, teaching, justifying, financing this tribal warfare?

Who is preaching unity and equality of all people against the heritage population and their allies?

Who has the most to gain by open conflict between the coalition of the minorities and the heritage population?

Who thinks they can control and direct the coalition of the minorities?

Who has the most to gain by destroying the influence of the heritage population and those who are sympathetic to them?

I have questions but no definitive answers.

The target should be the command & control center attacking America and not their foot soldiers and willing dupes.

[WLJ]

Let's YOU and HIM fight!

Who is stoking, suggesting, teaching, justifying, financing this tribal warfare?

Who is preaching unity and equality of all people against the heritage population and their allies?

Who has the most to gain by open conflict between the coalition of the minorities and the heritage population?

Who thinks they can control and direct the coalition of the minorities?

Who has the most to gain by destroying the influence of the heritage population and those who are sympathetic to them?

I have questions but no definitive answers.

The target should be the command & control center attacking America and not their foot soldiers and willing dupes.

While I don't think they're the root cause, though they are happy to help, I know who has the most gain from it. Hint: It's same people who just so happen gave us Covid 19

[WLJ]

The rot within the US is disturbingly similar to the rot that overtook the Roman Empire.

But that's a topic for another thread. Back to Covid 19 although there are similarities there too

[Ron]

We are now entering into the vaccine "full court press" mode.

I shudder to think what is next if they don't get enough willing vaccine volunteers.

They will have to accelerate their plans to enforce compliance.


 

[dogmush]

I suspect it'll be kinda organic.  Once enough people have the vaccine you'll start to see airlines, trains, hotels, sporting events, concerts, some restaurants,  parties, parades, cruise ships, and the like requiring proof of the shot from their customers.  The Gov won't have to mandate it, private companies will do it for them from a mix of actual belief in the shot, virtue signaling, and fear of liability lawsuits.


You won't HAVE to get one, it'll just be annoying to do anything without one.


ETA: once final FDA approval is received I could see employers mandating it for any job that deals with the public as well.  Just to avoid the liability of "your employee gave me COVID!!!"

[MillCreek]

I just attended the County COVID briefing as the first doses of vaccine arrive in the County and are being distributed today.  We are warning our employees to try and schedule the second dose of vaccine before a day off.  There is a pretty good chance that people will experience some symptoms after the second dose that can make them feel poorly for the next day.  

[dogmush]

I just attended the County COVID briefing as the first doses of vaccine arrive in the County and are being distributed today.  We are warning our employees to try and schedule the second dose of vaccine before a day off.  There is a pretty good chance that people will experience some symptoms after the second dose that can make them feel poorly for the next day.  

Everything I've read makes this sound pretty similar to the Anthrax vaccine,  which I've had several times.

It's pretty unpleasant, for a day or two.  You probably won't be bedridden,  but expect to feel pretty cruddy.

[cordex]

During SWAT training it was mentioned that doses of the vaccine were offered to county administrators and emergency personnel.  Four accepted.

I think a lot of people feel like a rushed vaccine may not be as safe as is claimed and are wanting someone else to get it first to see how well it works and how bad the side effects are.

[dogmush]

During SWAT training it was mentioned that doses of the vaccine were offered to county administrators and emergency personnel.  Four accepted.

I think a lot of people feel like a rushed vaccine may not be as safe as is claimed and are wanting someone else to get it first to see how well it works and how bad the side effects are.

Meh.  Enough people have gotten it to be pretty sure about the immediate side effects.

I'm unsure about long term effects,  but no one will know about those for decades.  Gotta make a decision before then. Assuming that we actually get a functional choice.


Mrs. Mush got informed today that she up for her first shot next week.  I'm expecting the DOD will get around to me March-ish.

[MillCreek]

Everything I've read makes this sound pretty similar to the Anthrax vaccine,  which I've had several times.

It's pretty unpleasant, for a day or two.  You probably won't be bedridden,  but expect to feel pretty cruddy.

I am wondering if this will be the second Shingrix redux, which I had earlier this month, and made me feel pretty crappy for 1.5 days.  I will definitely report back when I get it, which will probably be in January or February with the second immune three weeks later.

[WLJ]

I'm unsure about long term effects

AOC starts sounding reasonable  

[BobR]

I wonder what % of the population will need to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. I know it varies, with measles it is about 95% of the population. As far as I can see we do not have herd immunity from other corona virus types so why should this one be different. Same with the flu, in spite of a robust immunization program every year it still infects and kills people. Just some random thoughts in my head as I try to sort the wheat from the chaff.

bob

[Hawkmoon]

I am wondering if this will be the second Shingrix redux, which I had earlier this month, and made me feel pretty crappy for 1.5 days.  I will definitely report back when I get it, which will probably be in January or February with the second immune three weeks later.

I did the Shingrix series earlier this year. No side effects or after effects at all.

[RoadKingLarry]

We are warning our employees to try and schedule the second dose of vaccine before a day off.  There is a pretty good chance that people will experience some symptoms after the second dose that can make them feel poorly for the next day. 

It's pretty unpleasant, for a day or two.  You probably won't be bedridden,  but expect to feel pretty cruddy.

If my employer requires me to take a vaccine that is expected to make me sick they can damn well give me a free paid sick day or two to deal with the after effects.

[RoadKingLarry]

Here's some COVID vaccine action for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNzbAClpFs4

[Ben]

The Moderna vaccine is available now, and news to me - apparently Dolly Parton helped fund it. She sure is a great gal.


https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/12/18/heres-why-the-just-approved-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-is-better-than-pfizers-for-rural-hospitals-and-smaller-providers/

[Andiron]

Here's some COVID vaccine action for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNzbAClpFs4

Play the one where the nurse doesn't actually get the vaccine and is fine 

[Ron]

In one of the more ironic turns of events a customer called and lodged a complaint about me at work.

She was offended that after I answered her questions I informed her that if she did not pull her mask up over her nose while at the registers they would refuse to check her out.

Technically, I was supposed to refuse her service myself but I figured after we interacted and her needs were met it would be an easier conversation.

It is company policy and I  was just trying to give her a heads up before she got up there.

Clown world.

[Ben]

I guess new strains/mutations are emerging. I haven't read anything on it, but how are the current vaccines regarding strains? Are they somewhat "broad spectrum" for lack of a better layman's term?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-tier-4-lockdowns-new-covid-strain-surge-cases

[BobR]

I guess new strains/mutations are emerging. I haven't read anything on it, but how are the current vaccines regarding strains? Are they somewhat "broad spectrum" for lack of a better layman's term?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk-tier-4-lockdowns-new-covid-strain-surge-cases

Viruses will Virus. I don't know why this is not being hit on more. There is a reason people get the common cold year after year and why so much research is put into "next year's flu strain" before coming up with the accepted vaccination. Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2) will be around and around and around.

bob