COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[zxcvbob]

Okay, apparently some people got it in their head that a treatment for horse worms will cure COVID

Doctor warns Ivermectin animal paste is dangerous for humans & doesn’t help COVID-19
https://www.wave3.com/2021/08/05/doctor-warns-ivermectin-animal-paste-is-dangerous-humans-doesnt-help-covid-19/

If you dose it correctly, it might work. (I have no idea why or how it works because as that article says it's not an antiviral)  But I wouldn't try to use the 1.87% stuff for humans; it's too strong.  The sheep formulation is a little less than 0.1% and might be appropriate.  I've used that for my dogs when I couldn't get in to the vet to buy heartworm preventative.

[WLJ]

I'll take a wait and see before I start swallowing something that kills worms in horses for a virus .

[WLJ]

This is CNN

    CNN fired three employees who violated its Covid safety protocols by going to the office unvaccinated, the company said Thursday. It's one of the first known examples of a major U.S. corporation terminating workers for ignoring a workplace vaccine mandate. https://t.co/wgkh1Pwy9i

    — The New York Times (@nytimes) August 5, 2021

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/08/05/heres-what-is-and-isnt-enough-to-get-cnn-to-fire-somebody/

[WLJ]

And we also have this

    White House COVID-19 response coordinator Jeff Zients announces that Yelp will roll out feature allowing consumers to search for businesses that require fully vaccinated workers or proof of vaccination for entry. https://t.co/jjjmpFPssx pic.twitter.com/aqIvyYCEgM

    — ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) August 5, 2021

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/05/this-will-not-go-well-yelp-to-roll-out-feature-allowing-consumers-to-search-for-business-that-require-proof-of-vaccination-for-entry/

[WLJ]

Might be a good time to be a lawyer

[Bogie]

The fun part is that they keep insisting that drugs that have proven to have prophylactic efficacy in some trials be treated, and tested, like actual antivirals... Nope. But that's the story.

[MillCreek]

Because of the spike in our area, starting next week, employees have to go back to mask plus eye protection (goggles or faceshield) if we are inside our healthcare facilities. As if my glasses were not fogging up enough already.

[cordex]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm?s_cid=mm7032e1_w#T2_down
According to this study (another one drawing conclusions from small sample sizes), natural immunity alone is more likely to result in a reinfection than vaccinated + natural immunity.

Meanwhile, an English study says that vaccination does not decrease the levels of the virus in your system if are infected by the Delta variant.

[JTHunter]

Cordex - a couple of days ago, you had posted something about "natural immunity" and its longevity.  That may depend on any other health problems or physical changes in your body that occur after exposure.
Here are two personal examples.  As a child, our mother took me and my younger brother around to neighbor's kids that had the mumps as she knew the problems that happen to males that get the mumps as adults.  This was prior to the development of the MMR vaccine in 1971 and, as we were both born in 1957 and earlier, the CDC said it was necessary for us to get the vaccine.  Despite our childhood exposure, my brother and I never got the mumps.
The other is that no doctor has ever diagnosed me as having (or had - afterwards) the flu.  I have never felt so sick from an "illness" (except when my appendix burst) that I thought had the flu.  I have also never had a flu shot.  In October 2019, my mother got a flu shot.  Six months later, she ended up in the hospital for a week with BOTH the flu and a UTI.  I was around her at least once or twice a week before and after that hospital stay - and NOTHING.  In fact, that was the first time I had to wear one of those disposable "face diapers", just so I could answer the nurse's questions to get her admitted.  In breathing through that stupid thing, I apparently breathed in particles from the inside surface and had a coughing fit so bad that I had to step outside the tent and cough it up and spit out whatever was irritating my throat !

Here's a Youtube link of a Zoom meeting between some doctors where one theorizes the clotting problems are caused by the spike proteins forming on the smooth capillary walls and making them rough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sIWb9GTbbE

[Jim147]

A good friend of mine had not been by all week. When I say good friend, he used to come by twice a month and do my blood for nothing.

His department got shut down last year due to the covid. So he decided to retire.

He is fully vaccinated but his wife has only had one shot. Tuesday she had a 106 temp and tested positive. He has nothing. She is about over it but he won't visit for a while.

[Perd Hapley]

Had bronchitis this week, and the doc-in-a-box insisted on a covid test. Negative again, just like when my wife had the China virus last year.

If there's anybody out there taking almost no precautions against this disease, it's me. But it keeps refusing to infect me. And my part of town is apparently lousy with the stuff, compared to further south. I now know how Key & Peele felt. https://youtu.be/4xyhVO-SWfM

[K Frame]

A temperature of 106 should have put her in the CCU.

That right around where brain damage starts to happen.

[Ben]

Another study on natural immunity, this one focusing on 8 months of covid 2 (current covid) data vs the study looking at 17 years of covid 1 immunity.

People who have recovered from COVID-19 retain broad and effective longer-term immunity to the disease, according to a new study.

Findings of the study, which is the most comprehensive of its kind so far, have implications for expanding understanding about human immune memory as well as future vaccine development for coronaviruses.

For the longitudinal study in Cell Reports Medicine, researchers looked at 254 patients with mostly mild to moderate symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection over a period of more than eight months (250 days) and found that their immune response to the virus remained durable and strong.

The findings are reassuring, especially given early reports during the pandemic that protective neutralizing antibodies didn’t last in COVID-19 patients, said Rafi Ahmed, director of the Emory University Vaccine Center and a lead author of the paper.

“The study serves as a framework to define and predict long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2 after natural infection. We also saw indications in this phase that natural immunity could continue to persist,” Ahmed said.

The research team will continue to evaluate this cohort over the next few years.

The researchers found that not only did the immune response increase with disease severity but also with each decade of age regardless of disease severity, suggesting that there are additional unknown factors influencing age-related differences in COVID-19 responses.

More at:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/covid-19-survivors-have-broad-longer-term-immunity_3928732.html

https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS2666379121002032%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

[MechAg94]

https://www.kpbs.org/podcasts/kpbs-midday-edition/2021/jul/30/cdc-says-vaccinated-can-still-spread-covid/
CDC Says Vaccinated Can Still Spread COVID

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/30/1022867219/cdc-study-provincetown-delta-vaccinated-breakthrough-mask-guidance

I saw a video earlier and the CDC person didn't qualify the statement.  Just said vaccinated people can spread the virus.  Many of the links include qualifications in their statements so their may have been further announcements.

[Ben]

If your last name is Obama, you are immune to the virus and also can't be a carrier. Otherwise the MSM would be all over this [trump] wouldn't they?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mainstream-media-silent-obama-dances-maskless-crowded-tent

[MechAg94]

The White House has teamed up with TikTok stars, while some states are paying “local micro influencers” for pro-vaccine campaigns.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/01/technology/vaccine-lies-influencer-army.html

To reach these young people, the White House has enlisted an eclectic army of more than 50 Twitch streamers, YouTubers, TikTokers and the 18-year-old pop star Olivia Rodrigo, all of them with enormous online audiences. State and local governments have begun similar campaigns, in some cases paying “local micro influencers” — those with 5,000 to 100,000 followers — up to $1,000 a month to promote Covid-19 vaccines to their fans.

I would like to know who took the money.

[Angel Eyes]

18% of illegal alien families released by Border Patrol have tested positive for COVID:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

WASHINGTON — More than 18 percent of migrant families and 20 percent of unaccompanied minors who recently crossed the U.S. border tested positive for Covid on leaving Border Patrol custody over the past two to three weeks, according to a document prepared this week for a Thursday briefing with President Joe Biden.

Some flights scheduled to deport migrants had more than 25 percent of passengers test positive before departure, leading Immigration and Customs Enforcement to remove those migrants from the flights for quarantine in the U.S., according to the document.

The Department of Homeland Security document does not give precise dates or say how many migrants were tested.

Migrants are not tested for Covid in Border Patrol custody unless they show symptoms, but all are tested when they leave Border Patrol custody, according to DHS officials. Immigrants who are allowed to stay in the U.S. to claim asylum are given tests when they are transferred to ICE, Health and Human Services or non-governmental organizations. Deportees who are scheduled to be put on planes out of the U.S. are tested for Covid and other infectious diseases by ICE.

What percentage of the U.S. population has tested positive for COVID?  It's less than 2%, isn't it?

[Ben]

18% of illegal alien families released by Border Patrol have tested positive for COVID:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

What percentage of the U.S. population has tested positive for COVID?  It's less than 2%, isn't it?

Here's what the MSM has to say (and deflect) about that:

https://twitter.com/brikeilarcnn/status/1424705970366734347

https://twitter.com/i/status/1424718436899360775

[WLJ]

Pentagon to require all troops get COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.wlky.com/article/pentagon-to-require-all-troops-get-covid-19-vaccine/37260545

[MechAg94]

Here's what the MSM has to say (and deflect) about that:

https://twitter.com/brikeilarcnn/status/1424705970366734347

https://twitter.com/i/status/1424718436899360775

I wonder if the total Texas cases include illegals tested and released at the border.

[Pb]

This weekend I saw a pair of street preachers with signs declaring the Covid vaccine to be the mark of the beast.   

[WLJ]

This weekend I saw a pair of street preachers with signs declaring the Covid vaccine to be the mark of the beast.   

Clowns to the Left of Me, Jokers to the Right

[Ron]

Regarding the number of the beast and all the other eschatology in popular media.

If you are going to go biblical just focus on God the creator and the express image of his person, The Lord Jesus. The primary place to focus is on God, the creator of being (you/us) and the salvation offered in the Lord Jesus.

Both believers and and non non-believers are being bombarded with christian/antichristian themes and stories continually.

Don't lose the real Christian narrative in the noise.

-theology mode off-

Thanks for your patience with me 

[Ben]

At first I thought this was just some rando, but apparently it's part of a series of videos from the White House PR dept to promote vaccination.

As the comments suggest, if the WH is blaming conservatives for not getting vaccinated, they may have wanted to go in another direction. This will have the opposite effect on most conservatives.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/08/09/cringe-alert-will-this-latest-video-from-the-white-house-convince-many-people-to-get-vaccinated/

[bedlamite]

Ok, after watching that video, I don't understand how that was supposed to convince anyone to get the vax. You're right, if their target market for that is conservatives, I don't think they could have missed more.