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Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« on: July 12, 2016, 09:09:25 AM »
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The robbers demanded a cellphone from a 25-year-old in black shorts. Instead of handing it over, Junior Perez took off toward the entrance to the pharmacy. Eight shots rang out, and he fell face down.

The dozens of shoppers in line were unmoved. They held their places as the gunmen went through Perez's pockets. They watched as thick ribbons of blood ran from the young man's head into the grooves of the tiled walkway. And when their turns came, each bought the two tubes of rationed toothpaste they were allowed.

"These days, you have to put the line above everything," said pharmacist Haide Mendoza, who was there that morning. "You make sure you get what you need, and you don't feel sorry for anyone."


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The supply chain broke down - first slowly, then all at once, as a steep drop in the price of oil left no money to pay for even some of the most basic necessities.

This is how collapse happens: slowly, and then all at once. (Applies to morality, as well as economics.) It will be our experience, as well, if we don't get our house in order.
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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2016, 09:22:46 AM »
I think you've got it wrong way 'round. The economy depends on basic norms of not killing everybody, and not just outright stealing their stuff.
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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 09:53:17 AM »
I think you've got it wrong way 'round. The economy depends on basic norms of not killing everybody, and at not just outright stealing their stuff.

That's true. However, it was the government who first started the stealing stuff, in this case.
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So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2016, 10:07:21 AM »
That's true. However, it was the government who first started the stealing stuff, in this case.

You state that like this is the first time this has ever happened.
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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 10:35:33 AM »
That's true. However, it was the government who first started the stealing stuff, in this case.


Well - yeah.

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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 10:48:22 AM »
I think you've got it wrong way 'round. The economy depends on basic norms of not killing everybody, and not just outright stealing their stuff.

Works both ways, it's a feedback loop.
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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2016, 11:32:10 AM »
Sigh...

People, seriously?

We've been over this before It's not "real" Socialism, and the wrong people were in charge.
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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2016, 11:48:26 AM »
Sigh...

People, seriously?

We've been over this before It's not "real" Socialism, and the wrong people were in charge.

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Re: Basic Human Decency breaks down when the economy does...
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2016, 01:00:17 PM »
Works both ways, it's a feedback loop.


Well, that, too.
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