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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2013, 06:45:00 PM »
At least the next bombers will know where to plant the sticky bombs.

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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2013, 06:50:13 PM »
One criminal or one group of criminals, no matter how asplodey their toys are, doesn't mean you just shut down a whole fracking city.

They shut down Williston, ND?

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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2013, 07:00:53 PM »
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2013, 08:30:19 PM »
So if some terrorist/idiot starts successfully setting off bombs in your town, do you want all the businesses to stay open if they are still loose in the town and potentially still carrying explosives?

I for one always want donut shops to stay open. If the donut shops close, America has lost.
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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2013, 08:44:22 PM »
They shut down Williston, ND?

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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2013, 08:45:10 PM »
Everyone stay in the bar that you are in right now!

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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2013, 11:46:17 PM »

So if some terrorist/idiot starts successfully setting off bombs in your town, do you want all the businesses to stay open if they are still loose in the town and potentially still carrying explosives?


I know you want to be the one to kill 'em with your Garand?



Yeah, sure, why not?  We just had a lesson in how ineffective shutting the city down was in helping capture actual terrorist bombers in hiding. 

We had home grown JBTs going all third-world Latin American fascist in Beantown and they came up with bupkis, until they un-shut the place down and Joe Citizen found him and called the police.  Beyond parody.


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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2013, 12:06:18 AM »
Yeah, sure, why not?  We just had a lesson in how ineffective shutting the city down was in helping capture actual terrorist bombers in hiding. 

We had home grown JBTs going all third-world Latin American fascist in Beantown and they came up with bupkis, until they un-shut the place down and Joe Citizen found him and called the police.  Beyond parody.




Tell me what do you think would have happened if they didn't lock down the town. Remember these guys were tossing explosives at cops and they even killed one on MIT campus.
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2013, 01:13:31 AM »
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Tell me what do you think would have happened if they didn't lock down the town. Remember these guys were tossing explosives at cops and they even killed one on MIT campus.

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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2013, 01:28:09 AM »
being a low wage worker I agree with az red...

but I donut wish to make any controversial statements, my fave Donuts are Jelly Rolls...but I am so far out in the bush we donut have any stores out here. [popcorn]
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2013, 01:33:04 AM »
being a low wage worker I agree with az red...

but I donut wish to make any controversial statements, my fave Donuts are Jelly Rolls...but I am so far out in the bush we donut have any stores out here. [popcorn]


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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2013, 08:24:24 AM »
Tell me what do you think would have happened if they didn't lock down the town. Remember these guys were tossing explosives at cops and they even killed one on MIT campus.

Caught sooner.  Remember, the remaining guy was holed up in a boat that the owner was prevented from accessing during the shut-down.

Also, pipe bombs, not nukes.  Pretty weak tea, otherwise we would have been issued pipe bombs and not frag grenades back when I worked for Uncle Sam.  Also, more (realized and potential) bomb-throwers get kersplodied by their own chemistry experiments than do innocents, when they try to cook up the more potent explosives. 

There was no good reason to lock the town down, especially after determining the threat level.  They killed fewer people at the marathon and afterwards (up to the capture of the second suspect) than Chicago's murder rate projects for a similar number of days.  If they got lucky, they would have matched Chicago's murder rate for their days at large.  The difference lies in the sort of person killed and means.  Nobody gives a damn about thugs killing thugs in Chicago (or Boston).  But kill middle-class marathon-goers and you get the city shut down, armored vehicles rolling down the streets, and puffed up mall ninjas ordering taxpayers from their homes at gunpoint.
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So your ideal "response" would be do what?
Allow them to use their stash about town till they got caught?

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So your ideal "response" would be do what?
Allow them to use their stash about town till they got caught?

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Uh, not lock down the city and keep looking.  Release photos/descriptions of suspects. 

Locking the place down is a fine way to ensure you won't find folks.  As they are holed up and will remain so until the lock-down is lifted and there are too many holes to ever search in a timely manner.  Heck, the neighborhood he was holed up in was searched and they did not find him.  This is not rocket science, just simple math.  Letting these guys move about increases the odds of catching them. 

They used their "stash" against their pursuers, when pursuit got close.  I suspect they would have done so, lock-down or no lock-down.  Before the lock-down, there are reports of the suspects going out & about, doing non-terroristy things like regular folk.  Even if they did go to ground after their descriptions were disseminated, it is easier to note someone not around when everyone else is about, rather than just assuming they are holed up like everyone else.
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Allow them to use their stash about town till they got caught?

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Highly suggest that the residents stay indoors.
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2013, 10:09:00 AM »
Wow, I'm shocked at how many here are OK with martial law.

http://jimbovard.com/blog/2013/04/22/boston-death-sentence-for-looking-out-window/
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2013, 10:34:34 AM »
Wow, I'm shocked at how many here are OK with martial law.

http://jimbovard.com/blog/2013/04/22/boston-death-sentence-for-looking-out-window/

Martial law also has a way to taking care of looters and other opportunists of disasters.

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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2013, 10:57:17 AM »
It's not every day that you get a situation of the magnitude of a wounded teenager running around trying to keep away from the cops  :O
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2013, 11:29:32 AM »
Martial law also has a way to taking care of looters and other opportunists of disasters.

Apples and oranges but rationalize it all you want.
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2013, 11:31:11 AM »
It's not every day that you get a situation of the magnitude of a wounded teenager running around trying to keep away from the cops  :O

Hey, dude was in a boat and was known to use black powder.  IOW, a pirate.  And just what is the best way to go after pirates?  With ninjas...
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2013, 11:50:19 AM »
The cops shot the poor guy's boat to hell:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313052/Boston-bombings-Up-close-look-bloodied-bullet-riddled-boat-bombing-suspect-hid-hero-owner-tries-avoid-spotlight.html

Reminds me of Quigley Down Under, when the two Marston thugs shot up the dingy on the beach that they thought Quigley was hiding under  =(

Funny how this stuff doesn't get published in American media  =|
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2013, 02:14:10 PM »
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There was no good reason to lock the town down, especially after determining the threat level.

You forget- owning shiny tanks and MRAPS means they have a need to find a reason to try them out.
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2013, 02:02:26 AM »
One time, a long long time ago.
I lived in a 5 story walk up in The Bronx, the 4th and 5th floor caught fire and we were on the first floor.
Everybody in the building had to evacuate at 3am in snow/drizzle ... except for out family.
Dad and mom started brewing pots of coffee for the firefighters, it seemed to me we had as many in our apt as there was going up the stairs.
We had donuts too, I cant recall where they came from
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Re: Boston Police locked down the entire city... except the Dunkin' Donuts.
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2013, 09:01:53 AM »
Wow, I'm shocked at how many here are OK with martial law.

http://jimbovard.com/blog/2013/04/22/boston-death-sentence-for-looking-out-window/

Except it wasn't martial law.  You might want to read up on what martial law really is.
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