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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2017, 08:13:21 AM »
Good God... over on the book of faces there are a number of my liberal friends who are just going absolute batshit about how this is going to kill the poor, and that's what the Republicans want to do.

I really *expletive deleted*ing hate liberals.

I either unfriend or unfollow them anymore on FB
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2017, 08:21:07 AM »
I either unfriend or unfollow them anymore on FB

Better to refute their inane prattling with facts and truth and keep it up till the garbage takes itself out.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2017, 08:59:13 AM »
Nope. I will NOT unfriend someone over their political beliefs unless they attack me personally. And even then it's got to be a pretty nasty attack.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2017, 11:46:08 AM »
Nope. I will NOT unfriend someone over their political beliefs unless they attack me personally. And even then it's got to be a pretty nasty attack.

I absolutely will when they spout stupidity that accuses me of racism/sexism/being literally hitler for my beliefs....
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2017, 12:31:27 PM »
Now millions of Australians are dying.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/12/22/armageddon-spreadin-trump-signing-tax-cut-bill-triggers-alarm-in-australia/

I'm not sure if there is a better endorsement for the plan vis-a-vis increasing US job growth than other countries complaining that it will hurt their job growth.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2017, 02:08:46 PM »
Lowering taxes is good, but it's also the easy part. Now do we get to the hard part? Doubt it. =|

Yes... there sounds like good things in the plan, but if they won't cut spending also, it sounds like more fiscal irresponsibility.

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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2017, 02:28:02 PM »
Yes... there sounds like good things in the plan, but if they won't cut spending also, it sounds like more fiscal irresponsibility.

They won't, they want to get re-elected.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2017, 08:03:42 PM »
Yes... there sounds like good things in the plan, but if they won't cut spending also, it sounds like more fiscal irresponsibility.
If they lowered income tax rates to zero, I would call it a good start, not irresponsibility. 
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2017, 08:21:12 PM »
I absolutely will when they spout stupidity that accuses me of racism/sexism/being literally hitler for my beliefs....

That just might qualify as attacking you personally.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2017, 08:33:58 PM »
I absolutely will when they spout stupidity that accuses me of racism/sexism/being literally hitler for my beliefs....

I just remind them that since they support sexual predators, rapists and pedophiles they must be the same.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2017, 10:54:07 PM »
I used to be an adventurer like you until I took a tax reduction in the knee.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2017, 06:27:34 AM »
I absolutely will when they spout stupidity that accuses me of racism/sexism/being literally hitler for my beliefs....

Uhm... you just very nicely defined PERSONAL ATTACK, numbnuts. :rofl:

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I know people who survived concentration camps. I have a better understanding of the Nazis than most. If someone is that stupid that they immediately assume that someone yanking their non-firearms related political diatribe is somehow Nazi and against the First Amendment, they simply aren't TFL material.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2017, 09:59:05 AM »
I thought this was funny, both because CBS was looking for the opposite answer, and also because they looked to be creating a bias in their favor by the three states they chose to survey. I guess kudos to them for actually showing the segment?

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/12/23/watch-dems-middle-class-hardest-hit-tax-bill-narrative-takes-fatal-blow-from-cbs-news/
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2017, 10:25:08 AM »
Can anyone else get that story to play? I've tried several ways and I keep getting "media can't be played" error.

I'm wondering if they took it down because it disrupts their Americans will be soylent green narrative...
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2017, 11:29:53 AM »
Can anyone else get that story to play? I've tried several ways and I keep getting "media can't be played" error.


It won't play for me, either.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2017, 11:55:38 AM »
This is the kind of disinformation that infuriates me:

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It definitely means a lot at Christmas or any time when their healthcare costs will now go up ~$2000/year bc of the removal of the healthcare individual mandate. The "reform" will help families pay for their skyrocketing healthcare $ while corporate CEOs buy bigger mansions.

My health insurance went up over the last three years partially BECAUSE OF the individual mandate. And a lot more than $2000.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/12/23/uh-oh-sarah-sanders-kicks-lefty-hornets-nest-with-tax-cut-reality-check-for-liberal-elites/
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2017, 11:56:15 AM »
It won't play for me, either.

Yeah, I actually had trouble in Firefox 57. Played OK for me in Chrome.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2017, 04:38:49 PM »
If they get rid of the individual mandate, they will also need to get rid of the requirement for insurance companies to take everyone... or people will just wait until they get cancer to apply.

Or they the republican party could get rid of the whole thing... NAH!  Why would they do that?

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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2017, 05:28:12 PM »
If they get rid of the individual mandate, they will also need to get rid of the requirement for insurance companies to take everyone... or people will just wait until they get cancer to apply.

Or they the republican party could get rid of the whole thing... NAH!  Why would they do that?

You don't think that the insurance company lobbyists aren't already beating down the doors of the democrats yet ??
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2017, 08:38:43 PM »
Bernie Sanders will be introducing and campaigning to make the individual tax cuts permanent...right ??


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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2017, 05:21:58 AM »
I got my first direct effect of the tax bill today. $862 after taxes worth.
Just in time to pay my property taxes.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2017, 06:29:58 AM »
Bernie Sanders will be introducing and campaigning to make the individual tax cuts permanent...right ??


https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2017/12/24/bernie-said-what-watch-what-happens-when-a-socialist-knows-he-cant-slam-tax-cuts/

The lower brackets, at least. 

The article doesn't seem to go by Bernie's thoughts on the topic, but implies that he "can't" slam the tax cuts.

But if you listen to the video, he does just that.  He's for the middle class and lower tax break, but then goes on to say that, according to the tax policy center*, in 10 years, 83% of the breaks go to the top 1%, 60% to the top 0.1%.   80M will pay more in taxes, 13M will lose health insurance.  Premiums will go up.

I think that counts as 'slamming' the tax plan that they try to say that he can't do.

And looking at the comments, talk about misunderstanding what Bernie said.

Bernie supports a tiny fraction of the bill.  It'd be like a renewal of the assault weapon ban, but hidden in it is a provision that removes silencers as a NFA item, making them as easy to purchase as, say, replacement magazines. 

We'd like the silencer provision even as we hate the rest of the bill.

*At least he cites his reference.  Given the complexities of the bill, individuals will have a hard time telling whether and how much it benefits them, much less how it affects the whole range of income earners.

RoadKingLarry - may I ask what effect you're talking about with the $862?  From what I remember nothing should be taking effect yet?  You shouldn't even see more take home pay until Jan 31 or so when new withholding rules take effect.  Most effects shouldn't really be seen until 2019 when people start filing their 2018 taxes.

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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2017, 08:25:07 AM »
I work for one of the companies that stated they would give all employees a $1000 bonus if the tax bill became law.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2017, 08:46:06 AM »
Nice!

My company hasn't said boo about anything like that. I suspect that no, they won't give the employees a bonus, but will give management a bonus for a rather lackluster year's worth of performance.
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Re: The media is screeching about the tax plan...
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2017, 09:06:29 AM »
No link, just saw it on the TV. They were talking about politicians from the high tax states continuing to scream about SALT and how it screws homeowners in their states. Then they quoted some of the same politicians who in the past were screaming about how unfair to renters it was that homeowners can deduct their property taxes and something needs to be done.  :laugh:
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