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Title: Fluid Gender
Post by: Ben on October 07, 2020, 03:34:45 PM
So I guess if the whole shtick for this "gender fluidity" thing is to confuse people, congratulations:

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-man-files-pregnancy-discrimination-suit-against-amazon-n1242324

Reading that story, I can't figure out if it's a biological male saying he's female and pretending to be pregnant like they pretend to have menstrual cycles, or if it's a biological female pretending to be a man and actually pregnant.

Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 07, 2020, 03:51:10 PM
The article describes the person as a "transgender man", and I'm fairly certain that means woman pretending to be a man.  So yes, she could be pregnant for real.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: MillCreek on October 07, 2020, 03:54:23 PM
Yes, he is a biological female, identifying as a male, who is pregnant.  I have seen several such patients in my career.  If they have had top surgery, breast feeding is off the table, and the hormone regimen may have to be modified, but otherwise, it is managed as any other pregnancy.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: K Frame on October 07, 2020, 04:30:14 PM
Fluid Gender...

Is that like Wite Out or something?
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: RocketMan on October 07, 2020, 05:08:55 PM
I think he's talking about pipe fittings.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: MillCreek on October 07, 2020, 05:45:35 PM
I think he's talking about pipe fittings.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: Jim147 on October 07, 2020, 06:38:36 PM
Hydraulics?
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: WLJ on October 07, 2020, 06:44:57 PM
You know what else is fluid? Diarrhea
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: HankB on October 07, 2020, 07:18:32 PM
I just got my flu shot - on the form under "gender" there were three choices: male, female, and other.  

 :facepalm:

The inmates really are running the asylum - and have been for some time.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: lee n. field on October 07, 2020, 07:33:14 PM
So I guess if the whole shtick for this "gender fluidity" thing is to confuse people, congratulations:

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-man-files-pregnancy-discrimination-suit-against-amazon-n1242324

Reading that story, I can't figure out if it's a biological male saying he's female and pretending to be pregnant like they pretend to have menstrual cycles, or if it's a biological female pretending to be a man and actually pregnant.



If they're actually calling it a "man", then they're using the LARP assumed identity.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 07, 2020, 07:45:13 PM
I just got my flu shot - on the form under "gender" there were three choices: male, female, and other.  

 :facepalm:

The inmates really are running the asylum - and have been for some time.

Yeah, it's pretty bad when people involved with medicine will abandon biological fact.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: MillCreek on October 07, 2020, 09:31:53 PM
Yeah, it's pretty bad when people involved with medicine will abandon biological fact.

In healthcare, a distinction is usually drawn between sex and gender.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: cordex on October 07, 2020, 09:34:22 PM
In healthcare, a distinction is usually drawn between sex and gender.
Bigot.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: Andiron on October 07, 2020, 09:39:14 PM
In healthcare, a distinction is usually drawn between sex and gender.

I thought you guys were all about science?

"Trans" anything is mental illness turned victim class.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: MechAg94 on October 07, 2020, 10:32:14 PM
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Simmons said he was soon harassed by other employees at the warehouse, including in the men’s bathroom, where one worker asked, “Aren’t you pregnant?”

Menno and Houpt also allegedly began criticizing Simmons’ work performance in an attempt to get him demoted.

So the "harassment" was someone confused about HIS pregnancy?  That is the worst they can mention? 

Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: French G. on October 07, 2020, 11:37:42 PM
I think he's talking about pipe fittings.

Street elbow. Goes in female, takes a funny turn and comes out male.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: 230RN on October 08, 2020, 01:34:02 AM
Yes, he is a biological female, identifying as a male, who is pregnant.  I have seen several such patients in my career.  If they have had top surgery, breast feeding is off the table, and the hormone regimen may have to be modified, but otherwise, it is managed as any other pregnancy.

I am always amused by these discussions but almost never get involved in them.  It would appear, under even the most casual independent examination, that gender "smudging" seems to occur across almost all cultures and almost all history.

Pardon my tentative conclusion, therefore, that the real "science" ( wisdom, knowledge ) is that this "smudging" is a natural fact.

It is, indeed, the reality.

Some of us deal with the reality in a rational manner, but some of us "Karen" our way through it even though for the most part it's none of our actual business.

Long ago I decided that for the most part, and barring actual harm, a person could go to either heaven or hell as fast as they wanted, in their own brand of handbasket, with whatever parts they added or subtracted and it's none of my business.

One could stretch things to make specious claims that it is indeed one's business, but at root and fount, it usually isn't.

Terry
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: Fly320s on October 08, 2020, 07:24:49 AM
Some of us deal with the reality in a rational manner, but some of us "Karen" our way through it even though for the most part it's none of our actual business.

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One could stretch things to make specious claims that it is indeed one's business,...

It becomes "our" business when those who smudge their way through the world require us to adhere to their new smudged lines.  Their smudging may be natural to them, but it is nowhere close to the normal of all of us.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: zahc on October 08, 2020, 10:11:54 AM
It becomes "our" business when those who smudge their way through the world require us to adhere to their new smudged lines.  Their smudging may be natural to them, but it is nowhere close to the normal of all of us.

You missed the memo that we need to tear down every aspect of society that works for the 99% of people and replace it with something that works better for the few exceptions. Sure, by doing this we actually make it worse for practically everybody, but practically everybody don't matter; only the special minority matters... except not, because eventually of course the worsening of society worsens life even for the minorities, ultimately helping nobody at all, but it's not about making things better for the most people and it's actually not about making them better for the minorities either, the important thing is to be on the right side of history and make sure your friends know.
Title: Re: Fluid Gender
Post by: Ron on October 08, 2020, 10:38:00 AM
Diversity isn't our strength but requires more and more centralized control and power over the normal people to keep things from flying apart.

Diversity is the hammer our oligarchs are using to destroy the remnants of the functioning high trust protestant anglo saxon based system of culture and government. The constitutional Republic has been a dead man walking since before any of us were born.

I have no desire to lord over leftists and would like the option of being able to separate myself from them and from being under their control. The problem of course is the vast majority of Americans including Republicans and so called conservatives are someplace to the left of center when you examine their core beliefs.

The right in America, actually the western world, is not right at all but leftists moving just a little slower than the vanguard. The American "right", like Buckley, only yell stop! They never change or reverse course.

There really is no escape therefore.