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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on January 30, 2021, 07:07:35 AM
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https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/marijuana/idaho-advancing-state-constitutional-ban-on-all-marijuana/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1611959395
Ben's latest attempt to keep Idaho hipster-free.
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I'm wondering why this mythical "Ben" feels it is his/her business to tell me I can't use marihuana.
I don't, myself, by the way. Just askin'.
Terry
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I want legalized marijuana because I don’t believe the government should restrict it but I also loathe the pothead culture that it would attract. Let’s compromise and let me shoot white people with dreads in exchange for legalized pot.
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^^^I can support your plan if you add man-bun to the criteria.
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I've been reading about it locally.
Over the years, I had more and more leaned toward "legalize it, what do I care what somebody else does?" However I have to say that in the last two years I've been changing my mind.
I posted elsewhere here a while back that Ontario, Oregon, where I frequently go for stuff, and which has been a hick town of perhaps 10,000 people, last year, did $100,000,000 in pot revenue. More per capita than Portland. There are pot shops everywhere, with possibly more ID license plates in the parking lots than OR plates.
In 2019, Ontario was the kind of "big" small town that I found more similar to my Republitarian philosophy than cities around the Boise metro area. Super friendly people, leaned heavily conservative (as does most of Eastern Oregon) and clean and from what I could see, crime free.
That changed drastically, from my perspective, over the last year. The pot shops cropped up like crazy. Partially, from my understanding, because either the city or county promoted them for the tax revenue (which they have now, in vast amounts). I'm seeing a ton more grungy people walking around the town, and though I haven't seen 2020 crime stats yet, from the local news it looks like crime has gone up significantly, including violent crime, and even armed robbery at some of the pot shops. I used to leave my car unlocked everywhere I went there, like I do in most small towns in Idaho. Now I always lock it. That's not scientific, but it's a "Ben visual" that shows something has noticeably changed there for me.
So I'm still not sure where I stand on "legalize it", but I'm positive that I have become 100% NIMBY on the subject. Right now, I'm close enough to see the degradation, but far enough away to avoid it in daily life. I'd hate to have to start locking my car in my little town. Or even taking crime out of the equation, having to deal with the stench of pot farms, like what is happening in my old haunt of Santa Barbara, where the liberals thought replacing orchid farms with pot farms would be the cat's meow in progressiveness. Until they had to start smelling what they voted for.
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^^^I can support your plan if you add man-bun to the criteria.
YES!
(and anyone who reeks of patchouli)
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At the state or local level I am neutral on the topic.
However Idaho seems to be going to extreme measures to stop it. Even talking about changing the constitution of the state. That's crazy to hate the weed enough to want to blemish the constitution over.
What does Idaho hate weed so much? First, they want to stem the californication. We don't want Boise to become another Austin and it seems to be going that way. It's weird that they would rally around weed and not, like, other more important issues, but it seems to be a line in the sand of some sort. I would rather choose better more logical lines and sands, because ultimately this weed thing isn't going to work anyway.
Second, I don't normally say anything against the LDS. But do some research on C. Scott Grow. He is one of the main orchestrators of this anti-weed push and has long and deep ties to the LDS church, and plainly, this is no coincidence. I do not share the LDS' rather radical beliefs on toxic substances and whether or not legal weed is a good idea, I do not like that influence on our policy, not on a train or on a plane or with green eggs and ham.
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If it was legalized everywhere these pockets of extreme pothead culture wouldn't have the critical mass. Still going to have to pass a drug test for most decent paying jobs so the people that want to smoke all day will just go back into the shadows where they are now.
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https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/study-finds-that-when-cannabis-is-legalized-ice-cream-and-cookie-sales-go-up/
Won't somebody think of the ice cream and cookie makers of Idaho?
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https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/study-finds-that-when-cannabis-is-legalized-ice-cream-and-cookie-sales-go-up/
Won't somebody think of the ice cream and cookie makers of Idaho?
We don't need Idahoans to get fatter than they already are. :laugh:
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https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/study-finds-that-when-cannabis-is-legalized-ice-cream-and-cookie-sales-go-up/
Won't somebody think of the ice cream and cookie makers of Idaho?
I imagine Taco Bell does pretty well too.
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I've never tried weed and don't intend to (if it was legal I might, but i doubt it) I'm for legalization because of the hell my father-in-law went thru as he was dying of lung cancer. He had extreme nausea and the super expensive drugs he was taking for it didn't really help. Marijuana might have helped, but he wouldn't even consider it because it was illegal -- I assume because someone would have to break the law to get if for him.
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Oklahoma approved medical marijuana by ballot measure a couple of years ago.
Pot "dispensaries" have sprung up by the hundreds since. I think we have more of them than liquor stores. My little community with a population of about 2000 has 3 of them.
I can't really see any direct correlation with the recent increase in crime. The local meth culture doesn't seem to have been negatively affected though.
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Ben concluded with,
"...like what is happening in my old haunt of Santa Barbara, where the liberals thought replacing orchid farms with pot farms would be the cat's meow in progressiveness. Until they had to start smelling what they voted for."
The proponents of laws never tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
That's why I am emphatically in favor of every law having an expiration date not to exceed ten years but preferably five years.
It would certainly keep the legislators busy re-passing old good laws instead of making up new bad ones.
Terry, 230RN
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I am in favor of legalizing it on the federal level. Let the states do what they want.
Also, are the pot shops in Oregon cash only like the ones in Colorado? I figure that would be an attractive crime target. Legalizing it on a federal level would make it legal for financial institutions to service the industry and open it for medical use.
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Also, are the pot shops in Oregon cash only like the ones in Colorado? I figure that would be an attractive crime target. Legalizing it on a federal level would make it legal for financial institutions to service the industry and open it for medical use.
IDK. I only drive by them, never been in one. Not sure what the point of "cash only" would be for legal pot? Do some credit card companies restrict pot vendors?
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IDK. I only drive by them, never been in one. Not sure what the point of "cash only" would be for legal pot? Do some credit card companies restrict pot vendors?
I would assume they all do.
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IDK. I only drive by them, never been in one. Not sure what the point of "cash only" would be for legal pot? Do some credit card companies restrict pot vendors?
As far as I know, since marijuana is illegal at the federal level those businesses are considered illegal, so most companies in the business operate as cash only. This has been an issue since the first states legalized recreational use. Considering how much cash a typical dispensary rakes in, it has got to be a tempting target. From what I hear, the security at dispensaries is high, not that I've ever been to one or anything . . . .
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IDK. I only drive by them, never been in one. Not sure what the point of "cash only" would be for legal pot? Do some credit card companies restrict pot vendors?
As others mentioned, banks can't touch the business so they have to go cash only.
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I am in favor of legalizing it on the federal level. Let the states do what they want.
Also, are the pot shops in Oregon cash only like the ones in Colorado? I figure that would be an attractive crime target. Legalizing it on a federal level would make it legal for financial institutions to service the industry and open it for medical use.
I can't speak about the dispensaries in Nevada, but the farms take security pretty seriously. I drive by this one fairly regularly.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2296296,-115.1250287,3a,73.8y,42.07h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sni-J8wOD95b9AP9860McRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2296296,-115.1250287,3a,73.8y,42.07h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sni-J8wOD95b9AP9860McRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
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I'm of the mind that like most things, the feds should piss off and leave regulatory matters to the states.
The US is a big expanse, and regional attitudes clearly vary widely. Let local regulation craft a regulatory and legal environment that suits what most people in that area want.
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I can't speak about the dispensaries in Nevada, but the farms take security pretty seriously. I drive by this one fairly regularly.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2296296,-115.1250287,3a,73.8y,42.07h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sni-J8wOD95b9AP9860McRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2296296,-115.1250287,3a,73.8y,42.07h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sni-J8wOD95b9AP9860McRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
I half expected to see Gus Fring in that photo.
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I half expected to see Gus Fring in that photo.
:rofl: Pretty sure there are no chickens behind that wall.
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I can't speak about the dispensaries in Nevada, but the farms take security pretty seriously. I drive by this one fairly regularly.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2296296,-115.1250287,3a,73.8y,42.07h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sni-J8wOD95b9AP9860McRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2296296,-115.1250287,3a,73.8y,42.07h,89.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sni-J8wOD95b9AP9860McRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Dude on the left has some sort of badge on his belt. That would be hilarious if he was a cop working a side gig.
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if someone was leaning towards desperado, the weed stores around Reno are sitting ducks.
the guards hang around like nothing could ever happen, its tempting even ignoring the weed/cash in the store-make a quick 500 for the guards gun on the black market. plus his ammo.
the way to defeat the scourge of cannabis is to delete all laws - all of them except maybe no one under 18 or 21 can grow or posses.
I'm sure I could grow a few pounds a yr, but its not legal unless you are 25 miles out of town in NV.
i would totally love to grow a weed to trade for ammo.
the legal angle brings the riffraff around - just leave people alone - some folks will become homeless potheads just like a wino will with wine .
i would say, close the weed stores and let the market find its own distribution networks arrest/fine those who sell to minors
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https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/study-finds-that-when-cannabis-is-legalized-ice-cream-and-cookie-sales-go-up/
Won't somebody think of the ice cream and cookie makers of Idaho?
=D
Correlation does not imply causation. :old: