Whatever happened to Jim and Sarah Brady?

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I found this: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jim-bradys-wife-sarah-this-is-a-huge-moment-for-gun-control/

But,as we all know,that woman was everywhere for years.I haven't heard a peep in a coons age.It's like they pretty much disappeared a dozen years ago.

I wonder if the Bradys politically"belong"to the Clintons?Or,because it's been decades, they're no longer usable/relevant?

I suspect a bit of both.I'd believe that a (now)wrinkly old white couple have nothing in common with todays urban problems.

I'm surprised they weren't trotted out during elections or in the aftermath of a school shooting at least.


I remember thinking that she was very,very good at righteous indignation.Probably a good thing she didn't run for office.

[lee n. field]

I know she had lung cancer, a while ago.  Survived, by the looks of it.

Dunno, maybe they crossed Bloomberg or something.

[Ron]

Getting up there in age I suspect.

Takes a lot to put yourself out there and go to battle in the political trenches.

There is also some baggage regarding the name Brady that will rile up the opposition to gun control.


 

[French G.]

The lefty ghoul squad hired a new spokesperson. Her name is Gabby.

[AJ Dual]

Getting up there in age I suspect.

Takes a lot to put yourself out there and go to battle in the political trenches.

There is also some baggage regarding the name Brady that will rile up the opposition to gun control.

That... ^^^

The name Brady is now indelibly conflated with bans and confiscation, and the new tactic has been to double down on "common sense safety" and "third way" moderate shill groups.

So now "Brady" is tainted and has to be back-burnered. They only have limited usefulness for the rare times they might help fundraise from the hard corps anti-gun base.

The good news of course is that to date, the new strategy of the third-way moderate shill groups has fallen largely flat, except where they had an anti-gun majority politically in blue states, and Colorado is still in play.

I know the NY and other blue state folks are hurting, but with the existing bans that didn't expire in 2004, we've mostly written you off like California, sad to say. You're going to need some sort of grass-roots program that's so powerful that it overrides the domination of the cities.

Colorado is still in play, and hopefully Hickenlooper is next to pay the price for the bans there.

Fortunately for us, the whole "Zumbo Affair" was an even more important watershed moment for RKBA, because it truly defined the .mil and tactical-style wing of the gun culture as dominant over the "sporting"/Fudd side, and the anti's are just tone-deaf to the point that the moderate-shill strategy won't work well because of it.

[Balog]

That... ^^^

The name Brady is now indelibly conflated with bans and confiscation, and the new tactic has been to double down on "common sense safety" and "third way" moderate shill groups.

So now "Brady" is tainted and has to be back-burnered. They only have limited usefulness for the rare times they might help fundraise from the hard corps anti-gun base.

The good news of course is that to date, the new strategy of the third-way moderate shill groups has fallen largely flat, except where they had an anti-gun majority politically in blue states, and Colorado is still in play.

I know the NY and other blue state folks are hurting, but with the existing bans that didn't expire in 2004, we've mostly written you off like California, sad to say. You're going to need some sort of grass-roots program that's so powerful that it overrides the domination of the cities.

Colorado is still in play, and hopefully Hickenlooper is next to pay the price for the bans there.

Fortunately for us, the whole "Zumbo Affair" was an even more important watershed moment for RKBA, because it truly defined the .mil and tactical-style wing of the gun culture as dominant over the "sporting"/Fudd side, and the anti's are just tone-deaf to the point that the moderate-shill strategy won't work well because of it.

Not many antis could pass the ideological Turing test. Of course that's true on most things, and all sides.

[HankB]

Sarah Brady used to make the rounds of the talk shows, and engage in "debates" with spokesmen from the NRA . . . usually some inarticulate bureaucrat from NRA HQ.

But then the NRA wised up, and started sending women to debate Sarah Brady . . . articulate women. And Sarah not only began losing debates, but was made to look like a wicked, clueless, harridan besides.

It got to the point where, when a debate was to be held on some TV show, Sarah's "people" tried to establish preconditions, as in "Tell the NRA they're not allowed to send <list of people> to argue their point of view."

This didn't work, and Sarah, no longer able to play the "poor suffering woman, disrespected by boorish, unsympathetic NRA men" gradually fell from the limelight.

[lee n. field]

Not many antis could pass the ideological Turing test. Of course that's true on most things, and all sides.

Sadly, you're probably right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_Turing_Test

A concept I've only run into recently. 

the partisan is invited to answer questions or write an essay posing as his opposite number. If neutral judges cannot tell the difference between the partisan's answers and the answers of the opposite number, the candidate is judged to correctly understand the opposing side.

[KD5NRH]

I know she had lung cancer, a while ago.  Survived, by the looks of it.

Don't know what pics you're looking at, but I'd say it's debatable.

[KD5NRH]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_Turing_Test

Well, hell.  For once I would say we have an unfair advantage on a test.

A:"Express the Democrat argument on anything."
B:"White people are greedy racists, and it's Bush's fault."
A:"How long have you written speeches for Obama?"

[lee n. field]

Don't know what pics you're looking at, but I'd say it's debatable.

I thought the same, but excised the bit of snark before I clicked POST.

[Perd Hapley]

That... ^^^

The name Brady is now indelibly conflated with bans and confiscation, and the new tactic has been to double down on "common sense safety" and "third way" moderate shill groups.

So now "Brady" is tainted and has to be back-burnered. They only have limited usefulness for the rare times they might help fundraise from the hard corps anti-gun base.

The good news of course is that to date, the new strategy of the third-way moderate shill groups has fallen largely flat, except where they had an anti-gun majority politically in blue states, and Colorado is still in play.

I know the NY and other blue state folks are hurting, but with the existing bans that didn't expire in 2004, we've mostly written you off like California, sad to say. You're going to need some sort of grass-roots program that's so powerful that it overrides the domination of the cities.

Colorado is still in play, and hopefully Hickenlooper is next to pay the price for the bans there.

Fortunately for us, the whole "Zumbo Affair" was an even more important watershed moment for RKBA, because it truly defined the .mil and tactical-style wing of the gun culture as dominant over the "sporting"/Fudd side, and the anti's are just tone-deaf to the point that the moderate-shill strategy won't work well because of it.

Oh no, AJ. We're gonna hear about that one.

[Hawkmoon]

I know the NY and other blue state folks are hurting, but with the existing bans that didn't expire in 2004, we've mostly written you off like California, sad to say. You're going to need some sort of grass-roots program that's so powerful that it overrides the domination of the cities.

Colorado is still in play, and hopefully Hickenlooper is next to pay the price for the bans there.

I believe the court has ruled partially for and partially against the new New York gun laws, but that decision is being appealed. So New York is also still in play. Connecticut, IIRC, has three separate lawsuits challanging their new gun laws, and I don't think any of them have been decided as yet. So I think we can say that Connecticut is also still in play.

The New York decision was a puzzler. The judge acknowledged that the AR-15 as a type is popular and in common use, yet from there he went on to decide that it nonetheless wasn't protected by the 2A. That will be one of the bases for the appeal.

[Balog]

I believe the court has ruled partially for and partially against the new New York gun laws, but that decision is being appealed. So New York is also still in play. Connecticut, IIRC, has three separate lawsuits challanging their new gun laws, and I don't think any of them have been decided as yet. So I think we can say that Connecticut is also still in play.

The New York decision was a puzzler. The judge acknowledged that the AR-15 as a type is popular and in common use, yet from there he went on to decide that it nonetheless wasn't protected by the 2A. That will be one of the bases for the appeal.

Let's face it, even if they repeal those particular laws NY and CT are still gun rights shtholes. I wrote them off along with NJ and MA etc a long time ago.

[Chuck Dye]

I had imagined the Brady's secret offshore bank accounts were full enough to retire, but that's the way I am.

[Perd Hapley]

The New York decision was a puzzler. The judge acknowledged that the AR-15 as a type is popular and in common use, yet from there he went on to decide that it nonetheless wasn't protected by the 2A. That will be one of the bases for the appeal.

Yeah, the AR is too military-ish to be covered by that amendment about the militia.   


I don't know. Should we start telling them what the militia clause really means about the type of weaponry that would be covered, or would that frighten the herd too much?