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Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« on: October 28, 2007, 01:10:45 PM »
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http://www.cnnheadlienews.com/2007/US/10/25/fire.mecha/index.html

 
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ORANGE COUNTY, California (CNN) -- Radical Hispanic separatist organization MEChA ("Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan") is taking responsibility for setting the wildfires in California, confimed Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Firefighter Luke Perisin sets a backfire Wednesday against the Santiago Fire in Live Oak Canyon, California.

California officials received a letter earlier today containing photographs of individuals holding Molotov cocktails, then throwing them into dry brush. The faces of the individuals appeared to have been digitally distorted.

Also included was a rambling manifesto, stating that the reason for the act of arson was that "Aztl?n belongs to indigenous people, the Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztl?n. We are sovereign and not subject to a foreign culture."

Orange County Fire Battalion Chief Kris Concepcion told CNN that the pattern of wildfires definitely indicates arson.

"The reason we think it is [arson] is because we found multiple points of origin," Concepcion said. "... Our investigators have confirmed that this is, in fact, arson."

Concepcion said evidence indicated the arsonists wanted the fire to grow rapidly.

A $70,000 reward is being offered for any information leading to the arrest of those responsible for setting the fire. No suspects have been identified, though they are probably brown.

The state established a toll-free arson tip line at 800-540-7085. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said anyone convicted of arson would be dealt with harshly.


Concepcion said about 1,100 firefighters were working on controlling the blaze, which has destroyed at least 22 structures. The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said the fire was only 30 percent contained Thursday morning after being 50 percent contained the day before.

Concepcion said onshore winds Thursday morning should help firefighters "get the upper hand on this thing." Video Watch the Santiago flames rage ?
"For someone to even think about doing something as reprehensible as starting a fire where they knew the fire would grow as rapidly as it would -- traveling about three, 3 ? miles in about an hour -- is just really absolutely unconscionable," he said

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2007, 01:27:28 PM »
Hahaha! Excellent! These guys would have been so much more dangerous if they remained largely unknown. But, being stupid, they want it all now and went into open terrorism, which will ultimately marginalize and criminalize them. Let's see if Bush and Rice put them on the list of terrorist organizations. The elites will quickly change their tune once their Malibu houses burn down. Haha!  grin

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2007, 01:32:13 PM »
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A $70,000 reward is being offered for any information leading to the arrest of those responsible for setting the fire. No suspects have been identified, though they are probably brown.
That part made me laugh.

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 01:41:24 PM »
Whether they were responsible for all, some or none of the fires - it was a big mistake. 
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 01:44:12 PM »
 angry Ch'rowling untermenchen petaQs!!!  angry

I'd suspected (though hoped I was wrong) that such would happen eventually.  Would that the State of California set a nice bounty on MEChA-ist ears.
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 01:45:35 PM »
I think it's natural to read from a source that calls itself "head lie" news with a healthy amount of skepticism.  Double the skepticism when you realize that the site is intended to fake the look of CNN's page-I guess because they realize that CNN is probably taken more seriously than "head lie" news.

Notice that while they're specific with widely reported facts, the supposed evidence for MeCha being behind the fires is a letter "received by California officials."  

If I had to bet now, I'd bet that "head lie" news was true to its name and completely made this story up.  But I'll be waiting to see what credible information follows on this thead.

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2007, 01:50:03 PM »
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I think it's natural to read from a source that calls itself "head lie" news with a healthy amount of skepticism.

ARRRGGHHH!!!  Thats what I get for posting when most of my mind is focused on making "free-ware" work with Microsoft products. 

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2007, 01:51:31 PM »
ooo. Good catch shootinstudent.  I maybe have been had.

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2007, 03:27:37 PM »
ooo. Good catch shootinstudent.  I maybe have been had.

Happens to the best of us-and it's not like the basic story is completely unrealistic.
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2007, 03:34:06 PM »
It's a fake article. This showed up elsewhere, same place, "headlie news".

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No suspects have been identified, though they are probably brown.

CNN would not write something like that. That sounds like something from Stormfront. Tongue

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2007, 04:01:26 PM »
What a country...  rolleyes

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2007, 04:04:33 PM »
ooo. Good catch shootinstudent.  I maybe have been had.

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2007, 04:56:30 PM »
angry Ch'rowling untermenchen petaQs!!!  angry

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2007, 06:15:11 PM »
Was that an attempt at Firefly Mandarin profanity...?

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2007, 07:41:37 PM »
Was that an attempt at Firefly Mandarin profanity...?

Nah. It is just Klingoni.

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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2007, 08:06:04 PM »
Was that an attempt at Firefly Mandarin profanity...?
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2007, 08:06:38 PM »
Whether they were responsible for all, some or none of the fires - it was a big mistake. 


Oh, the mistake was mine.   smiley
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2007, 06:34:44 AM »
So when do we invade Mexico Huh?
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2007, 07:27:04 AM »
So when do we invade Mexico Huh?
Mexico??? You mean South Cali.
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2007, 07:45:58 AM »
The site is down now. CNN's assault lawyers must have dropped by.
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2007, 08:23:02 AM »
Mexico??? You mean South Cali.

Not much of a difference...
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2007, 08:27:09 AM »
Doing a google on the name of the guy who put it up, MechA and La Raza and such did notice, and were disseminating his name.

While they may not have done this, and while it was a racist bad joke, MechA is still quite nearly a terrorist organization, and that guy who put up the article was stupid. That's a good way to end up with a Columbian necktie or the like.


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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2007, 08:49:22 AM »
Disinformation just confuses the issues.  It's counter-productive.  It trivializes the real problems and gives the unconvinced the idea that nothing's wrong.

Plenty is wrong.

We are at war with Mexico.  And from what I can see Mexico is winning.
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2007, 08:56:55 AM »
Doing a google on the name of the guy who put it up, MechA and La Raza and the like did notice, and were disseminating his name.

While they may not have done this, and while it was a racist bad joke, MechA is still quite nearly a terrorist organization, and that guy who put up the article was stupid. That's a good way to end up with a Columbian necktie or the like.

What name did you Google? I couldn't find anything saying MechA and La Raza were disseminating anyone's name.

As far as I could find, the Fire Chief and the fire fighter mentioned are real and mentioned only otherwise listed in legitimate news stories. This Don Moore (a very common name) comes up in just about everything except in relation to terrorist Mexican organizations.
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Separatists claim responsibility for California Wildfires
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2007, 09:03:34 AM »
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What name did you Google?

The "Bleachboy Heavy Industries" that put it up.