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Sen. John McCain (edited) has died.
« on: August 24, 2018, 03:51:14 PM »
The senator has chosen to stop medical treatment of his glioblastoma brain cancer.  I bet he won't live much longer.  That cancer is vicious.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20180824/NEWS06/180829678
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2018, 04:38:01 PM »
I hope he manages to find peace with his family and his God(s) before the end.  Everyone deserves that.
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2018, 04:38:39 PM »
YEah, he'll be gone in less than a month, most likely.
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2018, 04:39:10 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2018, 04:45:20 PM »
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2018, 05:16:39 PM »
I'll just state right now that this is going to be an "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't even think of making a post" thread. This will be the only warning.
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2018, 05:23:53 PM »
In the event of the death of a Senator does Arizona's Governor appoint a replacement or do.they take it to special election? When would McCain's term have been up?
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2018, 06:10:41 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on August 24, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
In the event of the death of a Senator does Arizona's Governor appoint a replacement or do.they take it to special election? When would McCain's term have been up?
2020, I'm not sure the protocol.
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2018, 07:00:24 PM »
SWMBO's mother succombed to glioblastoma. I don't agree with the man personally but going through this is a horrible thing for both him and his family.

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2018, 07:23:34 PM »
If I remember right, given his age and the cancer, he's already beaten median life expectancy for it by quite a bit.

Hopefully Arizona has a replacement ready.

RoadKingLarry - https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2017/07/20/what-if-senator-mccain-leaves-office-how-process-works/494621001/

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It would be up to Gov. Doug Ducey to appoint the replacement for Sen. John McCain should he resign from the Senate or die in office.

I am given to understand that McCain has provided suggestion(s) for his replacement, but Ducey is under no obligation to follow them.

Basically, appointment to a roughly 2 year term until the next general election in 2020. The winner of that would serve for 2 years until the seat is up for its normal election cycle in 2022
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2018, 07:54:25 PM »
At this point, why doesn't McCain simply resign ?  Unless this is his final F/U to Trump. 
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2018, 08:17:28 PM »
Quote from: Amy Schumer on August 24, 2018, 07:54:25 PM
At this point, why doesn't McCain simply resign ?  Unless this is his final F/U to Trump. 

I'll give him that.

We has a boxer dog die of glioblastoma, or glioma, or something like that.  We never got a specific name for it.  She still made it to 10 years, which is a good run for a boxer.  :(
Anyway, I don't like McCain, but I wish him and his family peace.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2018, 08:52:30 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on August 24, 2018, 04:38:01 PM
I hope he manages to find peace with his family and his God(s) before the end.  Everyone deserves that.
Yeah, that.  Not much else is worth saying.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2018, 08:58:25 PM »
I believe it has been agreed that McCain's wife will take his seat once he's gone.
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2018, 09:04:25 PM »
^^^^I hope not.  McCain has a burning hatred for Trump.  I would pray he would see the error in that and do the right thing and resign his seat.
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2018, 07:21:24 AM »
Quote from: grampster on August 24, 2018, 09:04:25 PM
^^^^I hope not.  McCain has a burning hatred for Trump.  I would pray he would see the error in that and do the right thing and resign his seat.

He will not.
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2018, 09:26:28 AM »
Quote from: grampster on August 24, 2018, 09:04:25 PM
^^^^I hope not.  McCain has a burning hatred for Trump.  I would pray he would see the error in that and do the right thing and resign his seat.

Not going to happen. And that's all I choose to say on the matter.
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2018, 09:35:07 AM »
Quote from: Chester32141 on August 24, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
I believe it has been agreed that McCain's wife will take his seat once he's gone.

Great.  I'm sure we can count on Mrs. McCain to work well in supporting Trump's agenda.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2018, 10:08:58 AM »
Quote from: Fly320s on August 25, 2018, 09:35:07 AM
Great.  I'm sure we can count on Mrs. McCain to work well in supporting Trump's agenda.

And I'm sure this thread will engender much thoughtful discussion.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2018, 11:26:09 AM »
Quote from: fistful on August 25, 2018, 10:08:58 AM
And I'm sure this thread will engender much thoughtful discussion.

I didn't think we did that at APS.  ???
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Re: Sen. John McCain (almost) dead.
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2018, 01:51:24 PM »
Does he lose his healthcare insurance coverage if he resigns from the Senate?  I wonder if that is a factor for him.
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2018, 02:02:08 PM »
I'd say he'd retire, not resign.  I'm sure they have lifetime free medical benefits as retirees.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2018, 02:35:52 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on August 25, 2018, 01:51:24 PM
Does he lose his healthcare insurance coverage if he resigns from the Senate?  I wonder if that is a factor for him.

Interesting question. They used to get their insurance through FEHB, where all civilian feds get theirs, but that apparently changed after ACA was passed, and the senate and congress had to start buying on a special exchange. I think they still pay the same 70%gov/30% employee portion, but I don't know how the rest of it works.

Though I'm sure McCain would qualify for TCC (fed version of COBRA), which would give him 18 more months of insurance that he pays himself after he separates, and it sounds like that would be long enough, given his prognosis.
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2018, 03:12:16 PM »
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As the myth busting website Snopes points out, "contrary to popular belief, Congressional members do not receive free health care." Instead, they choose a gold-level Obamacare policy and receive federal subsidies that cover 72 percent of the cost of the premiums.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/25/heres-how-much-members-of-congress-pay-for-their-health-insurance.html
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