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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2013, 12:06:44 PM »
My biggest fear when hunting or fishing in WY is hitting someone's beef critter then having to pay the rancher for the animal.

What?  If a driver hits a loose cow the driver has to pay?  What kind of BS scam is that?
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2013, 12:18:50 PM »
What?  If a driver hits a loose cow the driver has to pay?  What kind of BS scam is that?

It's open range.

The cattle were there first.  Drive your horseless carraige at your own risk.

Same way in most of Montana.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2013, 12:32:52 PM »
I have a pretty low opinion of cops generally speaking, and it might have been possible to get the horses safely out of the way. That being said, human lives are more valuable than animal lives so I have no issue with putting them down if necessary. ANd of course we can second guess all day long but no way to know if it was the only or best course available.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2013, 12:51:01 PM »
I have a pretty low opinion of cops generally speaking, and it might have been possible to get the horses safely out of the way. That being said, human lives are more valuable than animal lives so I have no issue with putting them down if necessary. ANd of course we can second guess all day long but no way to know if it was the only or best course available.

I'm having nightmares picturing cops trying to put down horses with AR-15s in .223  [barf]
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2013, 07:59:58 PM »
What?  If a driver hits a loose cow the driver has to pay?  What kind of BS scam is that?

My uncle, the ambulance chaser, hit a cow just north of Austin, NV, on SR 305 while on his way up to visit us for Christmas one year. That area is open range, it was dark, and the cow was pitch black. Hard to see. He hit it at something like 60-70 mph. He was fine, but his rig was totaled. Still had to pay for the cow.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2013, 09:38:48 PM »
My uncle, the ambulance chaser, hit a cow just north of Austin, NV, on SR 305 while on his way up to visit us for Christmas one year. That area is open range, it was dark, and the cow was pitch black. Hard to see. He hit it at something like 60-70 mph. He was fine, but his rig was totaled. Still had to pay for the cow.

That is just stupid. Animals should never have the right of way on roads, regardless of size.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2013, 11:55:57 PM »
That is just stupid. Animals should never have the right of way on roads, regardless of size.

It's that way when the road is fenced off - if the cattle get out through negligence of the rancher, the rancher's at fault. Open range is the exact opposite, though; it's the driver that has to watch for the animals.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2013, 09:04:30 AM »
That is just stupid. Animals should never have the right of way on roads, regardless of size.

Tell that to the deer  :P
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2013, 11:23:34 AM »
They need to move those Deer Crossing signs off the highway.  Let the deer cross someplace safer.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2013, 06:11:23 PM »
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2013, 11:00:31 PM »
It's open range.

The cattle were there first.  Drive your horseless carraige at your own risk.

Same way in most of Montana.

Same thing here in northern Nevada, if you drive the speed limit and pay attention you're usually OK.
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Its open range, even though the cows are gated they still manage to get on the road. The wild horses just stare at you hoping you have a carrot ... one time a bull wandered into our garden and I managed to shoo it away, wondering if a .40 would simply bounce off its skull if I needed to use it.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2013, 11:27:23 PM »
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one time a bull wandered into our garden and I managed to shoo it away

I used to chase moose out of the garden in Alaska.  That was my contribution to the project.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2013, 05:12:31 PM »
I used to chase moose out of the garden in Alaska.  That was my contribution to the project.

Moose were there first, animal oppressor. ;)

Im trying to figure out if killing the horses and blocking traffic until the carcasses can get moved off the road was really more efficient than containing them until a cowboy with a trailer could show up.
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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2013, 06:48:49 PM »
Moose were there first, animal oppressor. ;)

Im trying to figure out if killing the horses and blocking traffic until the carcasses can get moved off the road was really more efficient than containing them until a cowboy with a trailer could show up.

I think they just wanted to shoot something  ;/

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Re: Good shoot or bad shoot?
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2013, 05:47:13 PM »


Couldn't find anything about horses, but Taser tested their devices on meth-addled sheep.  Srsly.



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