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Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« on: August 27, 2010, 10:46:30 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_drug_war_mexico

I don't think more than a day (if that) goes by that more people haven't been found murdered (often as a result of unfortunate methods), shootings are reported, streets/neighborhoods shut down, and threats delivered. And now car bombs.

The drug cartels don't care about any authority within Mexico. And they have a great interest in crossing our borders more often, and more easily (which Obama will cater to, wittingly or unwittingly), as well as setting up more permanent fixtures here.

I'm hearing where troops may end up, what for, what we have to gain from it, etc. The more I hear, the more going into Mexico and completely obliterating their drug cartels makes sense. Mexico just can't handle it, and we're the next stop. The next station, even. Why try to out-wait a tactical war of attrition? We'll wake up and find out that it's far too late to target these drug cartels as a result of our acceptance of illegal immigrants.

So, from the article:
- 75 murdered migrants are discovered
- drug cartels heavily suspected (Zetas has been identified by the lone survivor)
- the prosecutor investigating the murders has disappeared
- two car bombs go off within an hour of each other (at a police station and media station, knocking out their signal)

So now:
- the death toll is officially pushing 30,000 confirmed drug-related murders since late 2006
- 80% are being claimed to stem from 7 conflicts
- the drug cartels are using established war tactics

And as we all know:
- self-defense is frowned upon in Mexico

And all of that is par for the course. :facepalm:

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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 11:07:49 PM »
Legalizing drugs would help a lot.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 11:08:39 PM »
Because Mexico doesn't WANT our help.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 11:09:34 PM »
Would conquering be out of fashion?

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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 11:11:16 PM »
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Would conquering be out of fashion?
We already have all the burritos that we need.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 11:13:08 PM »
Would conquering be out of fashion?

Well it would solve the illegal immigrant problem...
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 11:15:24 PM »
Because Mexico doesn't WANT our help.

That doesn't stop us from helping Iraq and Afghanistan  ;)


It would sure be a lot shorter commute  =D

Since all the Mexicans want to live in the USA, if we annexed the rest of their country then they would be happy  :P
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 11:21:36 PM »
Ok, so who's in for invading Mexico? Plenty of tequila, cocaine, and beautiful brown women who will swoon over our suave debonair.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 11:25:02 PM »
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Since all the Mexicans want to live in the USA, if we annexed the rest of their country then they would be happy
But we wouldn't be.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 11:26:45 PM »
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Ok, so who's in for invading Mexico? Plenty of tequila, cocaine, and beautiful brown women who will swoon over our suave debonair.

I'd be ok with a beach house near Cancun.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 11:33:23 PM »
Oh crap!  Why must we always invade places that are hotter than the hinges of Hell?   :mad:  Just once, can't we invade Norway or Canada?  Ya know, someplace where the weather's not so bad? 
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 11:42:16 PM »
Ok, so who's in for invading Mexico? Plenty of tequila, cocaine, and beautiful brown women who will swoon over our suave debonair.

Vital perspective!  :laugh:

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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2010, 11:42:32 PM »
Oh crap!  Why must we always invade places that are hotter than the hinges of Hell?   :mad:  Just once, can't we invade Norway or Canada?  Ya know, someplace where the weather's not so bad? 

Japan and Germany aren't that bad weather-wise....
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2010, 12:16:12 AM »
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Japan and Germany aren't that bad weather-wise....
Neither is France.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2010, 12:47:02 AM »
Ok, so who's in for invading Mexico? Plenty of tequila, cocaine, and beautiful brown women who will swoon over our suave debonair.

Beats oil and war contracts.

Come to think of it, doesn't Mex have some oil too?  >:D
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2010, 12:49:18 AM »
Legalizing drugs would help a lot.

I can't add anything to that.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2010, 03:29:35 AM »
I can't add anything to that.

Why not do both?
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2010, 07:35:12 AM »
Mexico just can't handle it,
Not quite. Mexico has no interest whatsoever in handling it. You're thinking it's a disease to be treated and cured, but it's really a symbiotic organism firmly bonded with it's host.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2010, 11:13:02 AM »

Come to think of it, doesn't Mex have some oil too?  >:D

That cinches it....mobilize the cavalry and alert General Pershing....  :cool:
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2010, 03:31:12 PM »
If we invade Mexico, we will just have to deal with the illegal immigration from even further south.  Those 70 people found dead weren't Mexicans. 

Do we really want Mexico?  They have all that bribery and corruption and ................never mind. 
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2010, 03:57:34 PM »


Do we really want Mexico?  They have all that bribery and corruption and ................never mind. 

Seems like they're ahead of the game....maybe they should annex US...
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2010, 04:52:02 PM »
Because invading another country and trying to fight a counterinsurgency to prop up a corrupt government worked so well in Afghanistan and Iraq we should try it in Mexico too.   ???

Invading something without a concrete location or group to capture and destroy is asking for trouble.  We're having a hard time with illiterate mountain tribesmen in the mountains of Afghanistan.  Imagine how much fun it would be to fight a counterinsurgency against well armed, sophisticated drug cartels.

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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2010, 04:57:15 PM »
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Because invading another country and trying to fight a counterinsurgency to prop up a corrupt government worked so well in Afghanistan and Iraq we should try it in Mexico too.

Petraeus seems to have had some success in Iraq, and US casualties there have been, though tragic, rather low as far as wars come.
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2010, 05:01:46 PM »
I wouldn't want to prop up the current Mexican govt.  They are the problem. 
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Re: Question: Why aren't we helping... Mexico?
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2010, 08:12:25 PM »
Better yet...why not pretend we are going to invade...then track all the money movements that suddenly occur.  THEN we invade for a few months and take out the ones who scrambled with the money.  Besides, all the Mexicans in the US would scramble home to defend their beloved country...two birds with ones stone.