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Title: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: HeroHog on January 30, 2023, 04:17:25 AM
Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second! - Ballistic High-Speed Channel

https://youtu.be/VK7bCs4Ho_I
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: TechMan on January 30, 2023, 08:45:09 AM
 That is pretty cool...thanks for posting.
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Post by: HeroHog on January 30, 2023, 11:03:12 AM
Any time. I thought it would be good here and wanted it to be visible even to passing guests.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 30, 2023, 01:22:03 PM
Cool video, thanks.

I've seen quite a few of these guy's videos about shooting stuff and all are entertaining. However, on one hand they sort of seem like gun guys but on the other a lot of their comments seem to show a lack of knowledge about some pretty basic stuff.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: HankB on January 30, 2023, 01:51:07 PM
They must have found a way to monetize their videos - did you catch how much their new camera cost? One guy said a quarter million dollars, the other said $200k. Either way . . . business must be good.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: WLJ on January 30, 2023, 02:13:31 PM
They must have found a way to monetize their videos - did you catch how much their new camera cost? One guy said a quarter million dollars, the other said $200k. Either way . . . business must be good.

Dammit Carl! You weren't suppose to aim at the camera!
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: BobR on January 30, 2023, 02:46:21 PM
Would that be "exploding" or "fragmenting" bullets after hitting steel plate?

bob
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: HeroHog on January 30, 2023, 03:46:06 PM
Would that be "exploding" or "fragmenting" bullets after hitting steel plate?

bob

Pedant!
(One who ostentatiously exhibits academic knowledge or who pays undue attention to minor details or formal rules.)
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: WindBreaker on January 30, 2023, 07:19:10 PM
Cool video, would rather see the results in the jell. The plate looked great, but reaction into the jell tells me a lot more of which one is better for my defense. Jell would be much harder if not imposable to get in that detail because it takes longer to slow/stop may be out of focus by then. but as this video showed, the cameras are getting much, much better. Faster, better detail (higher res) less over the top light dependent, and no longer requires a PHD in "Greek word, Latin Word, Sanskrit Sanskrit, something made up, ology" just to operate the thing. Any good'o'boy that can still find his 10mm can probably figure it out now.
 
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: Fly320s on January 30, 2023, 09:45:45 PM
They must have found a way to monetize their videos - did you catch how much their new camera cost? One guy said a quarter million dollars, the other said $200k. Either way . . . business must be good.

Could be a rental.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: Fly320s on January 30, 2023, 09:49:43 PM
Gel, not jell, Bosco2.
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Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 30, 2023, 10:23:08 PM
Gel, not jell, Bosco2.

Nah, he's been vouched for as a bona-fide deplorable.
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Post by: Hawkmoon on January 30, 2023, 10:58:36 PM
However, on one hand they sort of seem like gun guys but on the other a lot of their comments seem to show a lack of knowledge about some pretty basic stuff.

You noticed that too, eh?

And I thought anyone who referred to a Desert Eagle as a "Deagle" was automatically classified as a dweeb.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: HeroHog on January 31, 2023, 03:24:53 AM
 Welcome to the zoo!  :old:

Cool video, would rather see the results in the jell.

But, this about what it looked like against steel. It wasn't a "projectile effectiveness test" into gel. That's been done half to death! Can't we just enjoy some senseless destruction? ;)
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: HeroHog on January 31, 2023, 03:27:36 AM
Gel, not jell, Bosco2.

OUCH! Windbreaker, you were just insulted!!!
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: WLJ on January 31, 2023, 08:39:56 AM
They must have found a way to monetize their videos - did you catch how much their new camera cost? One guy said a quarter million dollars, the other said $200k. Either way . . . business must be good.

Could be a rental.

Or a loaner.
Free advertising showing the capabilities of the camera
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 31, 2023, 09:09:48 AM
Or a loaner.
Free advertising showing the capabilities of the camera


Likely leased or rented. Allows for amortization of cost without the liability of general upkeep and maintenance.

Brad
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: RocketMan on January 31, 2023, 10:11:22 AM
Likely leased or rented. Allows for amortization of cost without the liability of general upkeep and maintenance.

Brad

In a follow-up video released yesterday, one of the Ballistics Hi-Speed duo alludes to actually owning the cameras.  He has built a business around high speed photography separate from the YouTube channel.  He has purchased, traded and sold many cameras over the years.

"Answering Your Questions" video by Ballistics Hi-Speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dgu0sHJ-8s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dgu0sHJ-8s)
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: 230RN on January 31, 2023, 11:53:24 AM
In light of past disussions of whether bullets can create flashes when striking, which generated much debate, I especially noted the tiny flashes in some of the impacts.

I repeat again, redundantly, and over and over, that velocity = temperature, and at least at the microscopic level, something was getting very hot from the impact in these vids.

In past discussions people didn't believe me when I said I've seen flashes toward dusk from a hot .243  hitting plain old rocks.  This was up in the Pawnee Grasslands when the  Grasslands were the Grasslands before they got covered by tourists, birdwatchers, and Rangers --and you could exercise a few ballistic whims without fear. 

A lot of the rocks lying around up there are flint, so the flashes were not due to steel impacts.  Imagine what goes on when the first molecule of bullet hits the first molecule of rock.  Or armor plate, as in the videos.

Terry, 230RN

REF (For tenderfeet... "BLM," by the way, will always mean "Bureau of Land Management"):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_grassland

https://www.blm.gov/
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: RocketMan on January 31, 2023, 12:42:15 PM
I've seen quite a few non-tracer .50 BMG rounds flash red streaks when they ricochet off something downrange.  I always just guessed it was friction heating, but there certainly could have been some other mechanism at work.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: 230RN on January 31, 2023, 01:46:39 PM
^ Interesting...
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WINDBREAKER, I think you're right about seeing vids of ballistic gel, but many of us are equally interested in all phases of terminal ballistics.

I think "jell" as a verb is a stretch from "gel," but the way verbs are habitually nounalized in today's English, no problem.

Welcome aboard.... is your "handle" related to sailing vessels?  Or maybe just densely woven outer garments?

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: HeroHog on January 31, 2023, 01:53:27 PM
Welcome aboard.... is your "handle" related to sailing vessels?  Or maybe just densely woven outer garments?

Terry, 230RN

He's no squid but he CAN be pretty dense!
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: MechAg94 on January 31, 2023, 04:56:15 PM
^ Interesting...
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WINDBREAKER, I think you're right about seeing vids of ballistic gel, but many of us are equally interested in all phases of terminal ballistics.

I think "jell" as a verb is a stretch from "gel," but the way verbs are habitually nounalized in today's English, no problem.

Welcome aboard.... is your "handle" related to sailing vessels?  Or maybe just densely woven outer garments?

Terry, 230RN
I have seen a lot of gel videos.  I would be curious about other stuff like blocks of wood, soda cans, etc. 
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: HeroHog on January 31, 2023, 05:08:24 PM
I have seen a lot of gel videos.  I would be curious about other stuff like blocks of wood, soda cans, etc. 

Soda cans? AK Jesus shoots a ton of White Claws... :O
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: 230RN on January 31, 2023, 06:58:50 PM
I shot a full CO2 pellet gun cartridge once with a .22 and it just PSHT! and flew away.  Decided it could be moderately dangerous if it decided to choose my direction to react.  I was pretty close, maybe twenty feet.

Son1 shot a supposedly expended oxygen generator canister and it exploded dangerously even though it was supposedly empty.

I shot a .357 straight up in the Grasslands a couple of times and finally heard one come down.  Kind of a variable rr-rr-rr-rr-rr-plop sound, but I didn't see it or find it.

Just to add to the data base of fun stuff to shoot at but maybe not so much fun if something goes wrong. =D

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: WindBreaker on February 01, 2023, 07:33:07 PM
Gel, not jell, Bosco2.

I'm an old disabled, ARMY E4, (wasn't asked to leave, but I heard there was a large party after I did) suffers from sarcasm and Dyslexia. So if I'm required to be able to spell to post here, and while I may have the right to remain silent but I lack the ability, you can let the insults fly or If absolutely necessary I have been asked to leave much nicer places than this! That's not true, I've been kicked out, and thrown out, but never asked.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: 230RN on February 01, 2023, 07:58:00 PM
Is that all? Worrywart.
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Post by: 230RN on February 01, 2023, 08:03:34 PM
I somehow quoted myself.  Deleted.
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Post by: RocketMan on February 01, 2023, 10:52:37 PM
I'm an old disabled, ARMY E4, (wasn't asked to leave, but I heard there was a large party after I did) suffers from sarcasm and Dyslexia. So if I'm required to be able to spell to post here, and while I may have the right to remain silent but I lack the ability, you can let the insults fly or If absolutely necessary I have been asked to leave much nicer places than this! That's not true, I've been kicked out, and thrown out, but never asked.

Hmmm, ex-Army and a friend of HeroHog.  That makes you immediately suspect as we've been trying to get rid of HeroHog for some time.
Seriously, welcome aboard.  New faces are usually appreciated in these parts.  Did HH warn you about this hive of scum and jerkwads before he invited you?  I think it's more likely you will ban your own self after being exposed to the miscreants around here. 
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: 230RN on February 02, 2023, 05:40:40 AM
What's the opposite of miscreant?

Hitcreant?



Terry hobbles away rapidly on his 480cc racing cane, hollering "You were warned!" over his shoulder.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: WindBreaker on February 03, 2023, 02:18:39 AM
Hmmm, ex-Army and a friend of HeroHog.  That makes you immediately suspect as we've been trying to get rid of HeroHog for some time.
Seriously, welcome aboard.  New faces are usually appreciated in these parts.  Did HH warn you about this hive of scum and jerkwads before he invited you?  I think it's more likely you will ban your own self after being exposed to the miscreants around here.
I've asked him repeatedly not to say that we are friends in public. I have a certain reputation to  maintain. I think it's 7 years before I can say what that is, but I do have one. And I got the invite, looked around, and THEN was told what kind of people I'd find here. If it gets too bad here, I have a go bag. Used to, that bag was good for 1000 miles oneway on a 4 day, but as the BAG has gotten older, I find it gets tired, and it's back gives out, much sooner than it used too, it can no longer sit on a motorcycle for hours at the time, and has to stop from time to time.  I've thought of just getting a new go bag, but after all these years I've learned to just make do.
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: 230RN on February 03, 2023, 10:20:07 AM
Would that be "exploding" or "fragmenting" bullets after hitting steel plate?

bob

I think maybe you're right.  I think "exploding" ammunition is kind of  illegal, and the term might best be avoided in today's information world.

"Bullets EXPLODING" might tickle the watch bots and nowadays, you don't want to tickle the watch bots.

Remember the days when you could post pics of you holding your favorite rifle on Facebook?  Dem days is gone fereveh.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Bullets EXPLODING at a Quarter Million Frames Per Second!
Post by: WLJ on February 03, 2023, 11:06:23 AM
Gun Jesus and Karl playing, I mean testing, Soviet and German WW-II exploding ammo

Testing WWII Exploding Ammunition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXaaybiRiYY