Turkey prepares to invade Syria

[Balog]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/11706383/Turkey-planning-to-invade-Syria.html

Turkey vs ISIS? I'm rooting for a meteor strike.

[SADShooter]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/11706383/Turkey-planning-to-invade-Syria.html

Turkey vs ISIS? I'm rooting for a meteor strike barrage.

Fine notion with one magnitudinal nitpick.

[Fitz]

Does this mean we're at war with Syria? (since ISIS was who we supported vs assad) or Turkey (since ISIS is our enemy elsewhere?)

 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I lost my scorecard i can't tell


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[Phyphor]

Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out?     

[RoadKingLarry]

Kill 'em all and let God Allah sort 'em out?     

FTFY

[Ron]

I almost expected to read that Turkey was invading Syria to to help Assad and ISIS against the Kurds.

I was close enough.

[Balog]

I almost expected to read that Turkey was invading Syria to to help Assad and ISIS against the Kurds.

I was close enough.

They're essentially opening up a two front war here.

[RocketMan]

And Turkey is a member of NATO the last time I checked.

[Regolith]

NATO is a defense organization...I don't think we're obliged to help out when a member nation are technically the attackers.

[makattak]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/11706383/Turkey-planning-to-invade-Syria.html

Turkey vs ISIS? I'm rooting for a meteor strike.

If you'll note, it's Turkey versus the YPG, the Syrian Kurdish army. ISIS doesn't worry Turkey. The Kurds do.

[MechAg94]

Turkey vs ISIS? I'm rooting for a meteor strike.

I disagree.  Wars in the middle east between muslim nations is likely the best thing for our own security.  How can we keep it from ending too soon?

[lupinus]

I disagree.  Wars in the middle east between muslim nations is likely the best thing for our own security.  How can we keep it from ending too soon?

I'm in favor of a discounted weapons emporium located in an easily accessible neutral area for the muslim parties at war.

"Why yes, we can deliver your bulk orders for a small handling fee, buy two and just include additional S&H!"

[roo_ster]

If you'll note, it's Turkey versus the YPG, the Syrian Kurdish army. ISIS doesn't worry Turkey. The Kurds do.

This.

I disagree.  Wars in the middle east between muslim nations is likely the best thing for our own security.  How can we keep it from ending too soon?

If we think of the Middle East like a bunch of demonic toddlers, many things become clear.  One of them being that unless we want them lighting OUR house on fire, we must see to it that they can find plenty of distractions close to home.

So, I support air drops of semi-sophisticated arms that will no longer work when if we decide not to supply them with spare parts.  And include propaganda indicating that their opponents are actually gay Jews in disguise.

[wmenorr67]

Yep, what is better than fighting them over there, letting them fight themselves over there.

[Gewehr98]

I doubt Turkey could fight their way out of a wet paper bag in this day and age.

[roo_ster]

I doubt Turkey could fight their way out of a wet paper bag in this day and age.

Curious as to what makes you write that?

The Turkish Army has been, since Ataturk's time, the most competent of Turkish institutions.  Also, head and shoulders above neighboring Arab armies in training, if not material.

Is it because of the purging of non-Islamists from the officer corps these last 10 years or so?

[dogmush]

The Turkish Army has been, since Ataturk's time, the most competent of Turkish institutions.  Also, head and shoulders above neighboring Arab armies in training, if not material.

If that's not damning with faint praise I don't know what is.

I haven't spent as much time with our allies as some here, but I have done more then a couple joint things with NATO.  My experiance has been that the Turks are muslem enough in culture that they are NATO's slow cousin.  We only let them in because we wanted missles there, and now we're kinda embarassed by their behavior.

[zxcvbob]

I doubt Turkey could fight their way out of a wet paper bag in this day and age.

I don't think they are talking about domesticated turkeys.

[roo_ster]

If that's not damning with faint praise I don't know what is.

I haven't spent as much time with our allies as some here, but I have done more then a couple joint things with NATO.  My experiance has been that the Turks are muslem enough in culture that they are NATO's slow cousin.  We only let them in because we wanted missles there, and now we're kinda embarassed by their behavior.

Indeed. 

But look at who they are up against.  Turks regularly beat Arabs like red-headed stepchildren over the years.

[AJ Dual]

Indeed. 

But look at who they are up against.  Turks regularly beat Arabs like red-headed stepchildren over the years.

If they're actually going after Kurds... because these moves are more about Turkey's long standing antipathy for a "Kurdistan" or Kurdish state to be formed in Syria, or Northern Iraq, than they are about Syrian stability, or ISIS... well, Kurds aren't Arabs either.

[roo_ster]

If they're actually going after Kurds... because these moves are more about Turkey's long standing antipathy for a "Kurdistan" or Kurdish state to be formed in Syria, or Northern Iraq, than they are about Syrian stability, or ISIS... well, Kurds aren't Arabs either.

True that.

Interesting note:
The Turks had the first passive IR tank sight to be deployed widely.  Installed them on M48 tanks in the 1980s, IIRC. 

[Blakenzy]

Well, if your Benghazi ISIS, ahem, "freedom fighters" couldn't get the job done send in one of the lower level NATO partners to get things back on track. Enough tomfoolery, we have an entire subcontinent to control 

[brimic]

Does this mean we're at war with Syria? (since ISIS was who we supported vs assad) or Turkey (since ISIS is our enemy elsewhere?)

 

What difference at this point does it make?

[RoadKingLarry]

Oceania America was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania America had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.