Iran has blueprints to Marine One

[Harold Tuttle]

it seems to me, that someone ought to be running some massive metadata-ed files
as peer to peer honeypots and watch who comes snooping & downloading

plans_for_deathstar.zip ------- 1.3 gigs
cold_fusion_reactor.zip  ------2.6 gigs

[mtnbkr]

it seems to me, that someone ought to be running some massive metadata-ed files
as peer to peer honeypots and watch who comes snooping & downloading

plans_for_deathstar.zip ------- 1.3 gigs
cold_fusion_reactor.zip  ------2.6 gigs

My company has or used to have a honeynet product that simulated all sorts of vulnerable systems and networks on a hardened Solaris box.  You could even put actual content on the virtual web servers.  This was before virtualization was commonly available (2000-2002).  Dunno why, but most of my govt contacts weren't interested due to liability concerns, though I did speak with one bureau who was interested for sting operations.

Chris

[jackdanson]

He needs a Segway One.

If I was president I'd ride a Segway everywhere, I'd also have a thin whispy mustache that I stroked evil-ly while giving speeches.... I guess that's why I'm not pres.

To OP.. meh, whoopdy do, doesn't make it any easier to shoot down, IMHO.

[Thor]

I wouldn't mind if this disqualified Lockheed-Marietta. IMHO the only place we should be buying whirlybirds for El Presidente is Sikorsky.

What's wrong with Boeing Vertol ?? 

[RevDisk]

it seems to me, that someone ought to be running some massive metadata-ed files
as peer to peer honeypots and watch who comes snooping & downloading

Folks already do so.  Haven't heard about people getting sued for downloading music off the internet?

[roo_ster]

Wanna hear something amusing?   If they buy S92's and such a leak as detailed above occurs, I will be the person held responsible.

Why do I have a feeling that I'm about to have a microscope jammed up my rear end tomorrow...

I am just gobsmacked that a defense contractor has not slammed the door on PtP protocols (with the exceptions of some business apps).

[Harold Tuttle]

Folks already do so.  Haven't heard about people getting sued for downloading music off the internet?

my concept has a predator ROV with hellfires that negotiates the infringement clause

[RevDisk]

I am just gobsmacked that a defense contractor has not slammed the door on PtP protocols (with the exceptions of some business apps).

Allegedly it was an exec who took his laptop home and did the P2P at home on his work machine.  Allegedly.

[roo_ster]

Allegedly it was an exec who took his laptop home and did the P2P at home on his work machine.  Allegedly.

Idjit.  Alleged idjit.

I have local admin on my work lappie, but use it to install, you know, productive apps. 

My inner child once thought about installing a torrent app on my work lappie, but my inner information security rep took my inner child out back behind my inner woodshed and kicked the ever loving sh!t out of him for even contemplating the idea.

[seeker_two]

Why don't they just use an Osprey?.... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-22_Osprey

[RevDisk]

Idjit.  Alleged idjit.

I have local admin on my work lappie, but use it to install, you know, productive apps. 

My inner child once thought about installing a torrent app on my work lappie, but my inner information security rep took my inner child out back behind my inner woodshed and kicked the ever loving sh!t out of him for even contemplating the idea.

We have used torrent before.   Spawn a new VM, connect it to a sterilized external connection (straight pipe to the internet, literally nothing on that connection except a router), download Linux/BSD ISO's, burn ISO's to DVD, destroy VM.   Quick, clean and quite secure.  Damn near anything you want to do (that is work related) can be done securely.  It just requires a bit of thought, and is sometimes outside the grasp of the normal user.

If users need help doing work related stuff, they should have people they can go to.  OTOH, "I want porn on my corporate laptop" is not work related.

[GeoJAP]

This sounds exactly like,"Iraq has WMD and can hit the USA with them in 30 minutes!!!!!!"  I call BS. 

[Leatherneck]

Why don't they just use an Osprey?....

I hope you're serious, S-2; that's exactly what I think they should do. Range, speed, payload, survivability designed in. All pure win. The V-22 airframe was ruled out of the early competition because of (a) downwash intensity on the South lawn, and (b) recent bad press and rabid opposition by a few vocal V-22 critics. Both stupid reasons, IMO. Either the V-22 or the S-92 would be viable candidates. Either way, this abominable program needs to stop the bleeding and die.

TC

[280plus]

Meh, Kaman KMAX. At least it'll have enough power to lift his big head. 

[digitalandanalog]

The Pres should balls up and ride in a regular type helo like so many other of his countrymen...

...or is he really afraid that he isn't the Chosen One and someone might want to have his number.

[seeker_two]

I hope you're serious, S-2; that's exactly what I think they should do. Range, speed, payload, survivability designed in. All pure win. The V-22 airframe was ruled out of the early competition because of (a) downwash intensity on the South lawn, and (b) recent bad press and rabid opposition by a few vocal V-22 critics. Both stupid reasons, IMO. Either the V-22 or the S-92 would be viable candidates. Either way, this abominable program needs to stop the bleeding and die.

TC

I'm serious...it would be a great platform security and performance-wise.....and, if they're really concerned about the South Lawn, Obama could always fast-rope down....should make for great video.... 

[RevDisk]

I hope you're serious, S-2; that's exactly what I think they should do. Range, speed, payload, survivability designed in. All pure win. The V-22 airframe was ruled out of the early competition because of (a) downwash intensity on the South lawn, and (b) recent bad press and rabid opposition by a few vocal V-22 critics. Both stupid reasons, IMO. Either the V-22 or the S-92 would be viable candidates. Either way, this abominable program needs to stop the bleeding and die.

TC

Well...  Folks did also argue number of flight hours of the platform and lack of other Presidential V-22's used around the globe.  AFAIK, there are no production VIP models in existence.  Both are valid points, I think.  You don't want to put the President in a relatively new design, platform longterm reliability is a major point.


Disclaimer: I am so biased it's not funny.   Don't even try to think of me as having a balanced POV. 

[Gewehr98]

That is a somewhat circular argument.

It's not as if there are V-22s being used by any country other than the U.S. last I heard.

Something about the glut of V-22 export models, I'd wager.

I'd see the tiltrotor export business going towards the emerging Bell-Agusta BA-609, anyway.

I've watched the SpecOps Ospreys at Hurlburt.

That's a serious high-pressure rotor downwash.

Obama would have to boost the stimulus package to hire additional groundskeepers at the White House.

[Leatherneck]

Bull.

The V-22 has amassed about 35,000 flight hours since the mishaps in 2000. Three squadron deployments to Iraq. Fourth squadron about to float with the 22nd MEU.

Many, many upgrades, most of which work OK, incorporated and more about to be tested.

The V-22 works. It will only work better from here on out.

For $11B, you can do a lot:
1. Customize a presidential interior.
2. Armor "the seat."
3. Buy OD paint that gleams.
4. Put in cellphone, radios, TeeWee, VTC, or any other comms technology that the Obama Kids want
5. Install hydraulically operated blast fences around the LZ on the south lawn, or
    5a. come up with another SOP where the VIP motors to, say, the Mall and gets picked up, assuming the Jefferson Magnolia means so much to you.

The tiltrotor was thrown out of the original competition because of "transportability." In a C-17. OK. Buy some widebody transports, or buy some KC-130 tankers. The V-22 does in-flight refueling fine, and it can self-deploy anyway, so give them 24 hours notice and they can take three VV-22s across the country, along with their people, in 24 painful hours.

What's the problem? Ospreys are selling for around $75M apiece today at your marinetiltrotormart.

TC

[Gewehr98]

I'll sit back and watch this discussion evolve between RevDisk and Leatherneck.

Personally, I like the V-22, and would love to see one spiffied up for Marine One.

Then again, I think Air Force One should have 8 engines, a healthy bomb load, and gloss paint, too.   

[roo_ster]

Then again, I think Air Force One should have 8 engines, a healthy bomb load, and gloss paint, too.   

Schweet.

[Leatherneck]

Let me just add: I think we should have a damned good reason to buy Marine One from anybody BUT Sikorsky, who have built every presidential helicopter since the first one and who have a very distinguished association with HMX-1.

TC

[280plus]

Then again, I think Air Force One should have 8 engines, a healthy bomb load, and gloss paint, too.   

I vote candy apple red. 

[seeker_two]

Then again, I think Air Force One should have 8 engines, a healthy bomb load, and gloss paint, too.   

The only bombs that Air Force One should be dropping at altitude are Emmanuel and Holder...  :rolleyes:

[Leatherneck]

The good news just keeps coming. From today's Congressional Quarterly:

The latest revelation pushes the total cost of developing and
procuring 28 new VH-71 helicopters to at least $13 billion, twice the
original $6.5 billion estimate in 2001.
As a result, each new helicopter made by Lockheed Martin Corp. would cost
$464 million.
The new helicopters' costs have risen, in part, because program officials
underestimated the complexity of modifications designed to carry more
people, fly farther and hover longer than aircraft in the current fleet. The
new helicopters also must be able to counter surface-to-air missiles. And of
course, the president and his entourage could not be without phones,
Internet access, printers, fax machines, and video screens able to withstand
an electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear blast.

Lucky me; I have to brief the SASC professional staffers Tuesday on VH-71 testing.

TC