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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Hutch on October 08, 2009, 08:14:03 AM
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I've noticed some sluggish starting in my wife's (almost) 5 year old Jetta diesel. I'm gonna buy a new battery. What's the latest and greatest, longest lasting and most satisfactory battery technology out there? What brand/make/model, and where does one buy one of these?
TIA....
H
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I would avoid Interstate . . . they've never lasted long for me, and I actually had one explode once. :O
And the Interstate rep said their warranty doesn't cover exploding batteries. (Dealer pro-rated it for replacement.)
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Hell and breakfast... Interstate was strongly recommended by a co-worker! Still searching...
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I have Interstate for one or two of my tractors and my truck. been in my truck a couple years, starts pretty easily. same goes for the tractor. the tractor battery died because it was left outside through the winter, but after recharging it's been fine.
FWIW...
TMM
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Before hauling off and buying a new battery, have you thoroughly cleaned the terminals and cable ends?
If you need one, I saw a Consumer Reports a few years back with the AutoZone Duralast Platinum (I think it was Platinum) at the top of the heap for overall value.
Brad
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Even the Wal-mart batteries get good reviews. I've had one of those in my truck for the last 4 years and it starts at a touch of a key no matter how cold it has been. The toyota landcruiser forums routinely recommend those.
You were probably going to do this anyway, but my philosophy when buying a car battery is to get the biggest one available for that vehicle. The price difference is not much and you may be happy for that extra capacity someday when your rig is having trouble starting in the middle of winter and you crank the starter a lot.
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I've also had good experience with Interstate. A mechanic I respect very much recommends them.
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Car batteries is one place where you actually get what you pay for. Lifetimes are quite predictable. My preference would be a seal battery fashionably oversized for the application. Go out of your way to keep terminals clean and corrosion free. Stick to brands at major auto supply houses. IIRC Interstate brands a number of private label.
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I think I got my last battery at Autozone. I'm not sure what brand it is, but it has lasted pretty good so far.
I used to replace batteries every 3 years as they would fail on me. I had one get weak suddenly and when I jiggled the terminals, one popped off.
They cost less than $100. They are easy to change out. It ain't worth going cheap or trying to go a little longer on a bad one. Being stuck somewhere without a working battery sucks. If I even think my battery is toast and it has been 3 years or so since I bought it, I just go ahead and replace it. It ain't worth it to me.
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Walmart batteries have been good to me. I seems to get about 7 years out of them.
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I just go to Autozone and buy one of their store-brand batteries, of a good size, and call it good. Never failed me yet, and most of them seem to last the standard 5 years.
Do keep in mind I don't have to deal with extremely cold weather...
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I also go for store-brand batteries. I can't say one way or another if they are better or worse. I kind of assume lead-acid battery technology is mature. When I can't get any good data on what is actually better, I just go for what's cheaper.
FWIW my neighbors have a contract to maintain the school district's fleet of buses. They swear at Interstate batteries and swear by Delco batteries.
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A lot of the store brand batteries are mfg by Johnson Controls.
Brad
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I've had good luck with Interstate and Sears Die-Hard.
My latest battery came from Farm & Fleet. 2 years so far, so good...
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Some years Interstate comes in dead last in Consumers' Reports. Some years it comes in first.
I usually get the cheapest battery of sufficient size. I never spend the extra money to get a "60 month battery" or whatever, because they just prorate the warranty anyway. By the time they give you money for the last 18 months of your 60 month battery to be applied toward the purchase of a new battery (which is never discounted), you haven't saved anything, in my experience. You just paid more up front.
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Car batteries is one place where you actually get what you pay for.
I have yet to have a OEM battery not last more than 7 years. I've had cheap batteries crap out after 2 years.
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I've always been a Die-Hard fan. I had one that lasted 12 years. The others have all gone at least 8.
I just got my first diesel truck a couple of years ago. Can't wait to replace the batts in the beast. :laugh:
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Consumers Reports rates the Autozone Duralast Gold and the Walmart Everstart batteries best value. Most places are only selling private label batteries these days, mostly made by Johnson Controls or Exide. I usually buy the highest CCA that will fit the vehicle, in a 3-year full-replacement warranty. I usually get 3-4 years out of them, which is only slightly shorter than the OEM batteries. Lately I have been trying to replace the batteries before they leave me stranded on the coldest morning of the winter, which is always when they fail for me.
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I have yet to have a OEM battery not last more than 7 years. I've had cheap batteries crap out after 2 years.
TX heat seems to be harder on batteries than MN cold; few batteries last 5 years.
My Pathfinder's OEM battery recently crapped out after just 3 1/2 years. :mad:
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I get 10% off Die Hard batteries from Sears, so that's the last battery I go. They've worked great, down to -50 below zero, and after having sat for 2-3 weeks at a time covered in a snow drift.
I've had terrible luck with Wal-Mart batteries.
(In a Pontiac Sunfire with the 2.2)
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My Die-Hard that went 12 years was from back when you could still get maintainable batteries. I always made sure to add electrolyte as needed and trickle charge it every couple of months or so. Plus it ran in a mild CA climate in a little 4-banger Jeep Comanche.
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Most batteries are made by the same people, just with different labels, logos, and warranties.
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Get yourself a real diesel battery from a real diesel engine company...
http://www.cat.com/parts/batteries (http://www.cat.com/parts/batteries)
PDF of available battery options. The most informative battery catalogue you will find.
http://www.cat.com/cda/files/1386197/7/PEHJ0073-02.pdf?m=37407&x=7 (http://www.cat.com/cda/files/1386197/7/PEHJ0073-02.pdf?m=37407&x=7)
Full disclosure: I work for Cat, but not in the battery division.
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Autozone Duralast Gold it was. There is exactly 1 size/form factor that fits the Jetta TDI, so it was an easy decision. Had the cheeful folks there test the battery and alternator, which both checked out fine. He recommended sticking with what I had. I says to him, I says "Wellsir, I'm buying a battery today. You want to sell one?"
The new battery goosed the ol' Jetta into life with alacrity this morning, so I'm pleased.
Der Deutch put an incredible amount of STUFF on and around the battery of that little car. Took 5 minutes before he could actually put a wrench on the terminals. This was not as bad as the person ahead of me in line. They had to have a brace and the windshield washer reservoir removed before he could actually even SEE the battery. Chevy Malibu, I think that was. Reckon how they put jumper cables on one of them?
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Reckon how they put jumper cables on one of them?
There's usually a jumper post attached to the positive terminal, that sticks up high enough to clamp a cable to.
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he new battery goosed the ol' Jetta into life with alacrity this morning
:lol:
Guess I should spend a little more money after all. I never get alacrity with my car batteries ! =)
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TX heat seems to be harder on batteries than MN cold; few batteries last 5 years.
My Pathfinder's OEM battery recently crapped out after just 3 1/2 years. :mad:
I think this may be the case with me as well. My batteries have always hit end of life troubles in the summer heat. I think my current battery might be about 3 years old so I am staying alert.
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A teachable moment here:
Guess I should spend a little more money after all. I never get alacrity with my car batteries !
It's all about alacrity people. Alacrity for you. Alacrity for me. That's just how it works. :)
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A teachable moment here:It's all about alacrity people. Alacrity for you. Alacrity for me. That's just how it works. :)
I'm plum out of Lacrity.
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That should make you all lachrymose, and stuff. =(
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you should try a battery swap on a VW new Beetle
function follows form on that beastie
:O
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I got one of those ones that look like a six-pack, I'm "senior-momenting on the brand". Being an amateur radio operator, I put extra demands on the battery. This one is two years old and shows no signs of stress in my V-6 Saturn with two radios aboard. I'm done with Die-Hards after many years of faithful service. I had two of them crap out after only a couple or three years. I too have heard good things about the Autozone and Walmart brands.
Russ
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I got one of those ones that look like a six-pack, I'm "senior-momenting on the brand".
Russ
Optima?
My OEM Nissan battery (2000 Maxima) crapped out about 3 years ago. Been using an Interstate ever since. Works just fine.
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Yup, Optima.
Favorite battery of tub-thumpers, too. =D
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I'm happy with my Autocraft titanium 1000 CCA battery. Haven't had it not be able to start the truck even after playing music on the 900 watts of audio for hours while camping. Same with having the headlights illuminate the target at the range now that it gets dark early. Its two years old.
The stock motorcraft battery lasted 7 or 8 years. It wasn't doing well toward the end though, I'd get > than an hour of use before it wouldn't start the engine. Got in the habit of keeping it on an incline and drop starting in 2 low.
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I've had as good luck with Exide as any other brand over the years.
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I've had good luck with Exide batteries as well. I always get them with more CCA than recommended. need. In extreme cold temperatures you need all the CCA you can get. Get a good battery for your diesel.
Sometimes paying a little more is worth it.
Most of our batteries have lasted 7+ years in Minnesota. I've heard that heat is tough on batteries. Our 93 Jeep is on its second battery. Keeping posts nice and clean helps out a lot.