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Title: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: K Frame on April 09, 2020, 01:38:31 PM
Interesting.

Very interesting.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-updates-senate-blocks-small-business-loan-legislation.html



Maybe they objected to there not being mandatory union membership for all American workers included in the bill?
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: RocketMan on April 09, 2020, 02:03:09 PM
There was a bunch of unrelated pork the Democrats wanted to insert in the bill, hence its being dead on arrival.  Political posturing on both sides, not really meant to pass.
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: dogmush on April 09, 2020, 02:05:59 PM
From the article:

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Speaking on the Senate floor, McConnell said he was not “talking about changing any policy language” the parties negotiated last month as part of an unprecedented $2 trillion emergency spending package. He urged Democrats not to “block emergency aid you do not even oppose just because you want something more” — tweaks to the small business aid program and more emergency funding for hospitals and states, a proposal Democratic leaders outlined Wednesday.

I hate to say I agree with Mitch, but I agree with Mitch.  They should have passed the added funding for the existing payroll loan program, and gone back to arguing about which pork get's passed on Monday.

A clean "this much more money to the existing loan program" should have been a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: K Frame on April 09, 2020, 02:14:48 PM
"There was a bunch of unrelated pork the Democrats wanted to insert in the bill..."

$25 million wasn't enough for the Kennedy Center?

They need another $25 million to lay off the rest of the staff?
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: grampster on April 09, 2020, 06:46:51 PM
I don't know if we'd need a constitutional amendment for this or just have a congress manned by patriots:  Any bill submitted for congressional and presidential approval that contains money to be spent, SHALL NOT contain any other language pertaining to anything else other than language pertaining to the specific bill.  In other words one bill = one item.
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: French G. on April 09, 2020, 07:04:58 PM
That’s my presidential platform. One item, one bill. Balanced budget. Line item veto for appropriations. Term limits. Repeal the 17th.
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: Ben on April 09, 2020, 07:07:48 PM
I don't know if we'd need a constitutional amendment for this or just have a congress manned by patriots:  Any bill submitted for congressional and presidential approval that contains money to be spent, SHALL NOT contain any other language pertaining to anything else other than language pertaining to the specific bill.  In other words one bill = one item.

Yup. Both sides have held the American people hostage with "padding the bill" as it were.
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: MechAg94 on April 10, 2020, 09:38:12 AM
Line Item Veto would help with that.  Or at least put pressure on the President to cut stuff.  The edited bill could even go back for a up/down vote.  I also like the automatic sunset clause mentioned in a previous thread.

Add in that no law or regulation is binding without explicit authorization by a bill passed by Congress and signed by the President.  Legislative authority cannot be delegated. 
Title: Re: Dems block $250 billion in additional aid for small businesses
Post by: bedlamite on April 11, 2020, 06:21:29 PM
Now apparently Pelosi wants HR5717 added to the next stimulus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Z-hd59LmU