Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on June 22, 2019, 10:21:09 AM
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https://www.npr.org/2019/06/21/734930475/a-travel-nightmare-waking-up-cold-and-alone-in-a-darkened-plane?utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3j9GJArQJOgcJkp3khIw4xR2CG7zMM33SMaRhE-mcPahYpZZjfgDadzRg&fbclid=IwAR2gKtn2fZ8D4rFSfdVUMlwzCfO4HdIIAHgDgn-LVaNAMiYHMwLNkgIAl2g&fbclid=IwAR0Zqnmnou2Y64wdgVSRx_vX4c8YSJILqc2riZhP02-Mhqc0QdysqPSpjOs&fbclid=IwAR1qN6RxjAme9Ae83ok7aWPJeqRhhXPG5q8PnGonUo46eVrGlL4_aZADw4U&fbclid=IwAR0rBj2QkxQfiUwtd0mGC1JnXS7GL4S_FDVvoqdbYK5bfwXotKKSxqivTJU
In my clinics at closing time, we always sweep through the entire building to make sure that no one is asleep in a restroom, forgotten in an exam room or someone has parked dead Grandma in a wheelchair in the lobby.
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Adams made her way to the cockpit, where she eventually found a flashlight. The light helped her figure out how to open the main exit door. But there was no gangway, so she was staring at what she said was a 40 to 50 foot drop to the ground, hardly an attractive means of escape.
Yeah right
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Uh yeah, looking at a diagram of the 737 (for example), the doors appear to be about 11 feet off the tarmac.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737#/media/File:B737Familyv1.0.png
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Adams, who has since been experiencing anxiety and insomnia, wrote that she fell asleep in a row of seats on a nearly empty flight
You got stuck on a plane for a little bit, it's not like you spent time in one of Trump's concentration camps
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Can't top that, but going home after school I was awakened in the storage yard of the NYC subway system. Conductor was sweeping the cars, so I guess it happened often.
I remember being very confused and disoriented because the subway train was outside in daylight as opposed to underground. Sort of like coming out of a matinee movie. He told me how to get a train back to my station.
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I have slept on a flight before, but I was never able to sleep that deep or very long.
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Adams, who has since been experiencing anxiety and insomnia, wrote that she fell asleep in a row of seats on a nearly empty flight, and by the time she woke up the plane had arrived at its destination and had been parked away from the nearest terminal.
She says she's still recovering. "I haven't got much sleep since the reoccurring night terrors and waking up anxious and afraid I'm alone locked up someplace dark," she wrote.
Conclusion: Adams is a wimp. A wimp with a lousy sense of depth perception.
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^^^Prediction: Ms. Adams will start to feel better once she gets a large settlement check from the airline.
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She could have just pulled the emergency slide.
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She could have just pulled the emergency slide.
She would have to know how to arm it first.
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I have slept on a flight before, but I was never able to sleep that deep or very long.
Last time we we were in Vegas...
First couple days were pretty laid back. Light gambling, tourist things, bed at a respectable hour. Last night we were there, I hit the blackjack table after dinner. Wife didn't feel good and since I wasn't getting laid...
$5 table. Started with $300. Went up by $1200 by midnight. Put all the black chips in my pocket and kept playing. Finally had enough at 0530 when they were vacuuming the floors and there was like 20 gamblers left in the entire casino.
Back long enough for an hour of sleep.
Flight was at 1500. Non stop to Houston. I slept the entire flight and the wife said I was snoring louder than the crying baby on the plane.
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Having been inveigled into trying actual outdoor rock climbing once (once, once only, count'em, N=1) I can testify that looking down, the drop looks like 350% longer than the actual distance.
But I think you're right about her feeling better after getting a check from the airline.
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She would have to know how to arm it first.
Because I like to learn something every day, are there helpful arming/deploying the slide instructions printed on the door? I am guessing that a trained crew member may not always be available.
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I thought they made them more secure after the D.B. Cooper incident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper
He knew that the aft airstair could be lowered during flight—a fact never disclosed to civilian flight crews, since there was no situation on a passenger flight that would make it necessary—and that its operation, by a single switch in the rear of the cabin, could not be overridden from the cockpit.
???
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Because I like to learn something every day, are there helpful arming/deploying the slide instructions printed on the door?
Not on my plane. The placards tell you how to open the door, which will deploy the slide if it is armed, but there are no arming instructions.
I am guessing that a trained crew member may not always be available.
To close the door and arm the slide, there will have to be a trained crewmember there. It is simple to do, but there are no instructions.
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I thought they made them more secure after the D.B. Cooper incident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper
AFAIK, the only changes because of Cooper were to the rear stairs on the 727. They can no longer be opened in flight. Doesn't matter now since nearly every 727 is retired. I think only FedEx still flies them in the US.
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AFAIK, the only changes because of Cooper were to the rear stairs on the 727. They can no longer be opened in flight. Doesn't matter now since nearly every 727 is retired. I think only FedEx still flies them in the US.
I don't think Fedex does anymore.
I did work a B727R the other day. Trying to remember the call sign but it's escaping me.
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Not on my plane. The placards tell you how to open the door, which will deploy the slide if it is armed, but there are no arming instructions.
To close the door and arm the slide, there will have to be a trained crewmember there. It is simple to do, but there are no instructions.
How interesting!
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If you really want to learn how, a simple search on Youtube will reveal it.
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If you really want to learn how, a simple search on Youtube will reveal it.
On the Airbus, the memory jogger is "Pin, lever, pin." Pull the safety pin out, push the lever down, stow the pin. That works for when the door is closed. To launch the slide when the door is open takes a bit more work.
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I don't blame them for trying to keep it confidential. TSA can't "pat you down" for intent to crash a plane by deploying slides in flight. (Although I suspect it would be instantly ripped away by the slipstream and not have a disastrous effect on flying characterisitcs. But I'll leave that for the actual flyers among us.)
I suppose TSA could simply ask if that's your intent, but don't forget that lying for the sake of your ideals is characteristic of these destructive types and is not "wrong."
Terry
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Good luck opening a cabin door at 30,000 feet.
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^Preassumption. How about 5000 feet?
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Unless I'm mistaken, the door opens AGAINST the air-stream so PUSH!!!
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Unless I'm mistaken, the door opens AGAINST the air-stream so PUSH!!!
I thought the doors (and the over-wing exits) were designed like plugs, so cabin pressure acts to seal them tighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYgM3SgZ60s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO2wkubIsGc
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IIRC, they don't pressurize until about 10,000 feet. In any case, this is all getting pretty silly.
Me go now.
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DC-8's and 9's were like in the video only they had one handle, not a Tee like the Boeing doors. Also, neither had built-in stairs. We had a portable stair case on wheels that we used.