Post by: Ukraine Train on April 11, 2005, 05:17:46 PM
Post by: stevelyn on April 12, 2005, 09:27:13 AM
Ted Nugent
Larry Pratt at GOA
Col. Jeff Cooper
Col. Robert K. Brown, Publisher "SOLDIER OF FORTUNE" magazine.
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Post by: Werewolf on April 13, 2005, 05:08:36 AM
Why? Because we are too splintered as a group. There's the shotgun guys who are broke down into the hunters and the skeet/trap crowd. Then there's centerfire hunter crowd (who mostly bury their heads in the sand and don't really give a hoot about the 2A anyway), the handgun guys, the paper punching guys and on and on and on. AND there's not a recognizable leader in the bunch let alone one who can unify us all and stand on the national stage and be an advocate.
With the exception of a small percentage of folks within each group most of the above rarely ever think about RKBA. Hell - I've been a shooter for over 30 years and I never even heard of the 1994 AWB until 2001 when I started looking into getting an AR-15. The only reason I knew about the Brady Bill was I tried to buy a handgun during the brief period after it's passage but before NICS when there was an actual waiting period for the police check.
Supposedly there's 80 million gun owners in the US - that numbers bandied about pretty regularly. That's 26.5% of the US population and if you get rid of the kids that's 35% of the population. That's a pretty large group. BUT try finding most of 'em. They're hiding out, maintaining a low profile or just don't really give a damn about RKBA.
If you assume that just 1% of those 80 million actually care about RKBA you'd think that at least one person out of that 800,000 would rise to the task of being a national spokesman for the cause. Hasn't happened yet.
Charlton Heston - mouthpiece - not a leader.
Pratt and Zelman - maybe but only for their factions. Hell you'd think Jews would be the most pro-gun group on the planet considering their history but look how small JFPFO is - very vocal - minimum impact.
What about in Congress - maybe the senator for Idaho might be considered a RKBA leader - maybe but he's not gonna chain himself to that wagon as whether we like it or not and even though RKBA might be an election breaker for some it is still not a major issue in Congress - just one that has to be watched - one where the goal is to not piss off gun owners rather than make them happy. We do wield some political power - but only enough that not pissing us off is the goal. There's a lot more of them than there are of us and Congress isn't going to do anything to piss of the them just to make us happy. So there aren't any RKBA advocates in Congress either - just guys who'll ocassionall jump on the bandwagon to make a little political hay.
The reality is that RKBA is important to us but it's just a side issue for the vast majority of Americans if it's an issue at all.
That type of environment doesn't lend itself well to creating leaders.
Post by: grampster on April 13, 2005, 08:52:45 AM
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Post by: Dave Markowitz on April 13, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
Post by: The Rabbi on April 13, 2005, 02:28:03 PM
You mean Ted Nugent or Ted Volk?
Post by: MaterDei on April 14, 2005, 05:40:57 AM